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Old 08-04-2006, 11:14 AM
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cboy's rat vandalized by penguin

A photo of the dirty deed is attached.


The whole sordid tale:
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/66681/index.html

Actually, Cboy was kind enough to let me use a photo for that story. Hotrodders have been figuring out solutions to technical problems for decades and passing along what they find out. It's the same way with programmers; they just started about 20 years later than hotrodders.
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Old 08-04-2006, 02:23 PM
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Nice article.

Being a Sun unix guru, I think I will just stand back and watch the Linux and Windows fellows have it out

It's my experience that just because an OS says it supports something, doesn't always mean it does it right.
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:00 PM
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Every time I see that "Tux" cartoon I'm reminded of that joke where the penguin's car takes a dump and he drops it off at the garage. While the mechanic is looking at the car the penguin goes and gets a ice cream. It's a hot day and the ice cream is melted all over the penguins face and flippers. When he goes back to the garage the mechanic has found the problem. While still under the car he says "it looks like you blew a seal"

The penguin says "leave my personal life out of this."

I still can't figure out how to get a hp printer to work with my kids 4 year old lindows OS, even though all the linux using people say it is easy. Spending all these years not learning how to work windows makes it even harder to learn how to not learn how to do things with linux. I read that stuff and I know it is all in english....But like another kind of english.

Gnu, kernal, mandrake, ubuntu, linspire, fedora i'm in a harry potter book..

That article did look like it is very interesting. I'll let my kid read it. His mind is unpolluted by Microsoft and may benefit from it's wisdom.

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Nice article.

Being a Sun unix guru, I think I will just stand back and watch the Linux and Windows fellows have it out

It's my experience that just because an OS says it supports something, doesn't always mean it does it right.
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Working with Sun, you probably saw up close that they came out with OpenSolaris because of the advance of Linux. I'm glad Sun finally did that. It lets the people who work with it every day actually improve the system instead of waiting for it to trickle down from on high.

Sun's support of devices is a different sort of focus than just about anyone else. They have a well-deserved reputation for optimizing the software-hardware combination for high speed and high reliability for servers. Not many big iron machines need to support things like a webcam from Wal-Mart.

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I still can't figure out how to get a hp printer to work with my kids 4 year old lindows OS, even though all the linux using people say it is easy.
Ah, there's the problem: 4 years old. I think you may be talking to people who haven't been using it 4 years. 4 years ago, I would've recommended any computer geek to try it but a non-geek, who just wants things to work, I would've recommended they find the nerd in the neighborhood first.

Download and burn a new one or buy a few cheap CD versions and boot. I don't know if HP even had their open drivers 4 years ago. A lot has changed.

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Spending all these years not learning how to work windows makes it even harder to learn how to not learn how to do things with linux. I read that stuff and I know it is all in english....But like another kind of english.

Gnu, kernal, mandrake, ubuntu, linspire, fedora i'm in a harry potter book..

That article did look like it is very interesting. I'll let my kid read it. His mind is unpolluted by Microsoft and may benefit from it's wisdom.

later, mikey
I thought I knew about cars until I got here a couple of years ago. Been tinkering with them or repairing them for about 40 years and I still ran into quite a bit of jargon on here that I hadn't heard before. It took a little lurking to sort out some of it.

You know, I'm sure, that there are a lot of folks on here who are willing to help. It's the same way in any field, just as it's a sure bet there are some who will try to flaunt what they know just to make others feel 'dumb'.

If not for the help I got here, I still wouldn't have any sort of plan of where I want to go with my Olds. I'd probably still be trying to work on it out in the field, and just give up in disgust. I just couldn't list all the people who've helped, from air system and garage to using a computer to try out different mods and paint jobs.

The thing I tried to show with that article is that Linux is at the stage now where people who just want a 'turn-key' system can have it and those who want to customize it right down to the nuts and bolts can have that, too. I wanted to link back here to hotrodders.com because I know there are folks here who have to fight XP to get things done, and also because I want some Linux geeks to see another community where people have been having fun sharing information for decades.

Thanks for your kind words!
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Nicely done Grouch. I had never considered the parallels between Linux (and the whole concept of open source code) and hot rodding...but you've managed to bring that point home in a fun and interesting manner. I hope the computer guys enjoy it as much as the hot rodders.

Dewey

BTW, Tux makes the rat look pretty good.
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Old 08-05-2006, 10:18 AM
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Thanks, Dewey.

Maybe there will be a geek or two wander by here and help Jon out with some projects. The stuff he needs is over my head.
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