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Old 11-13-2003, 10:09 AM
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Cheaper way to build an engine

Guys,
I need your opinion - I am looking for a good short block assembly (pistons + crank installed and balanced). Most places sell them for $1300-1500. What about buying a $1200 GM Goodwrench engine, stripping it off its lousy heads and cam, and putting my own aftermarket ones? Would that 4-bolt 2 piece main with stock GM pistons/rings/crank Goodwrench engine handle a 400-440hp?

Should I get a 1-piece main seal or 2-piece be okay?

Thanks for your input!
Denis

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Evening bump.

Has anyone considered that option?
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I recently read on this site about a place called northern auto parts. I decided to try them out and ordered an engine kit. It was a great deal. They have a small block kit with hypereutectic pistons, roller timing set and everything else you need including a crane cam and crank for $498.00
Most machine shops will balance for under $150.00 They could even assemble the engine for you. If you have the time to assemble it your self its well worth the trouble.

good luck

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Old 11-13-2003, 06:53 PM
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I would suggest ebay. I got a 388 stroker, scat crank, hyperu pistons, I-beam rods, four bolt block, fully ballanced with ballancer for $690, no joke! Fully assembled too! Best deal ever, check ebay.
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good call on the ebay idea! i too have got great deals on that site. you'd be surprised.
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I would suggest ebay.
Thanks for suggestions! The only thing that scares me about Ebay purchases is if you get a bad part and then have to ship 600 lbs of dead weight back to the seller (only if he agrees to take it).

I will give Northerauto Parts a call.
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Old 11-14-2003, 10:04 AM
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Yup, that's always a possability, and even when I got my engine, I checked all the codes to make sure I got what he said I got. THere was a repair on the block that wasn't mentioned, but I didn't ***** for 700 bucks, it wasn't in a critical area and it was small. You can check a seller's feedback, it actually gives you a better idea who that person is than you could get just meeting a guy and buying his motor. By that I mean that all history of his sales are documented. If you're tlaking to a guy who deals in motor and motor parts and he's got a positive 500 feedback rating, that means that he's got 500 satisfied customers. I always read through the history to find out what the guy is like and what, if any, complaints he has gotten. Furthermore, if the item is not exactly like it says in the ad, ebay rules say that you don't have to go through with the deal.

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There are always "cheaper' ways to build an engine. You gotta remember you always get what you pay for. Case in point: I'm working on a 347 Ford stroker for a young man. He got the kit thru Nothern auto parts. He got the wrong cam, wrong rings (twice), and a damaged piston. By the time i got him fixed up with the right parts, i could have gotten him a kit withe the right parts the first time for a few bucks more. This isn't an isolated incident, either. I think it's worth one's time to check with a good machine shop to see what they might be able to do for you. We can usually come close in price and our quality can be checked out personally by our customer.
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***** always happens, I agree.

Fortunately for me I just found a Powerhouse shop in town next to my job (www.enginekits.com). I couldn't believe how close I was to that place :-) all these years. They have pretty good reputation and deals on engine kits/parts.

What do you guys think about that Car Craft 440hp project (http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/81998/index.html), but instead of 350 motor, go with the 383 kit? Do I need a new cam instead of XE274H? I still like the 1200-6000 RPM range for the street use. Would the modified set of LM31 Vortec heads work well with 383 setup (they can take a lift up to 0.525")?

What kind of power increase will this give me? I need some vacuum to run my brakes. cr 10:1.

Thanks!
Denis
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