Cheapest EFI conversion possible - Page 3 - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Engine> Modern Electronic Engines
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 12-16-2011, 11:17 PM
EagleMark's Avatar
GearHead-EFI.com
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North Idaho
Age: 53
Posts: 73
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Same thing, just differant way of doing it. Like a PC or a MAC.

If you already got a Megasquirt I would not try and talk you out of it. They are excellent. Just not the only avenue...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 12-16-2011, 11:27 PM
396375's Avatar
If it isn't fast,it isn't mine
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Toronto ON Canada
Age: 64
Posts: 8
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have an Eprom burner and blank chips cheap if anyone is interested.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2012, 03:28 AM
Project89's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: utah
Posts: 827
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 12
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboS10
I believe the MS2 comes at least partially assemebled in the kit or "assembled" version, but I could be wrong. I can't imagine sitting and doing all the surface mount work unless you are very experienced and I expect they recognize this as well.

Totally agree that the tech lines can be horrible, but I just want to set up the "situation" you are in once you dive in to diy efi. It can make you feel pretty stranded at times hunting for information.

the only megasquirts that are smd is the fully assembled smd versions(i.e v3.57 units).with the exception of the ms3 and ms3x expansion board these are addon boards that u cannot build urself.
these are nice because if u want to change ur ignition system input or add boost control u only have to move some jumpers around on the board instead of adding jumper wires and resitors.

the smd units are basically fully optioned out of the box


the diy units all come with a bare pcb, cpu and all the resitors chips capacitors u need to build the board urself in niceley labeld bags

an assembled ubnit is typically about 100 bucks more then a diy unit u solder together urself while i enjoyed building my first ms unit ms1 v2.2, the added cost of just buying a completly assembled and ready to go unit is worth it


as stated above deff go with a v3.0 board the boards are more heavy duty on th epower sides and can handle high or low impediance injectors without mods and when used with an ms2 or above cpu can control stepper motor iac valves.

the v3.0 board can use any of the ms cpus ms1 ms2 ms3

id also buy one of there wiring harnesses, the wires are nicely labeled to were they go every few inches down the wire, makes it really hard to miss wire something. not to mention trying to build ur own harness sucks when trying to solder wires to the db37 connector pins
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 01-03-2012, 03:59 AM
4 Jaw Chuck's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Age: 46
Posts: 4,814
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 60 Times in 48 Posts
People asked me why we needed this sub forum...because of threads like this!
__________________
Outlawed tunes from outlawed pipes
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 01-03-2012, 06:21 AM
EagleMark's Avatar
GearHead-EFI.com
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North Idaho
Age: 53
Posts: 73
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Hot Rodders is a dieing art with the youth of today. They are following the lines of new technoligy.

So that leaves mostly the older guys who have been around while Hot Rodding was High Tech! But the older guys are usually just not computer literate and some don't even want to learn? They would be shocked into learning if they could get to a site like this!

I'm an older guy (51) who got into computers around the same time EFI was coming into play 1989 and have combined my love of cars, Hot Rodding, and todays hot rodding, EFI !

If it wasn't for this section I would not have found this site! So I am glad it was added. Some EFI is simple to learn and old Hot Rodders have no idea how easy.

I think it is just the timing of Hot rodding of the past and Hot Rodding of today finally coming together!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 01-04-2012, 02:46 AM
4 Jaw Chuck's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Age: 46
Posts: 4,814
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 60 Times in 48 Posts
It is changing, hotrodding is ever changing. Nice to see prices coming down for items like programmable EFI...and great guys like the mods in this forum to help oversee a place to discuss how to implement it.
__________________
Outlawed tunes from outlawed pipes
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #37 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2012, 05:32 PM
Siggy_Freud's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
Age: 29
Posts: 2,371
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleMark
Some EFI is simple to learn and old Hot Rodders have no idea how easy.

I think it is just the timing of Hot rodding of the past and Hot Rodding of today finally coming together!
No kidding. I believe that anyone who can confidently learn to disassemble and reassemble a carb has all the brainpower they need to do an EFI conversion .

It's the intimidation factor that people need to get over.
__________________
Bringing history and technology together.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #38 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2012, 05:39 PM
123pugsy's Avatar
HOT ROD...... FROM A CHRYSLER?
 
Last wiki edit: Metal shaping
Last journal entry: FLOOR PANELS
Last photo:
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Markham,ON
Age: 52
Posts: 2,231
Wiki Edits: 29

Thanks: 293
Thanked 194 Times in 174 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siggy_Freud
No kidding. I believe that anyone who can confidently learn to disassemble and reassemble a carb has all the brainpower they need to do an EFI conversion .

It's the intimidation factor that people need to get over.

I agree.
I started with TPI to wet my feet and next will be an LS1 ECM running sequential EFI on a BBC. Hopefully I will learn the tuning too using HP Tuners.

I think alot more guys are looking at it these days.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #39 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2012, 07:38 PM
396375's Avatar
If it isn't fast,it isn't mine
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Toronto ON Canada
Age: 64
Posts: 8
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Installing an EFI system is fairly easy if it is new and complete.Installing a factory system on a vehicle that never came with it is tougher but still doable.Trouble shooting and tunning is a whole new deal and not for the first timer.
MSD has a new system that dosn't require a return fuel line.The fuel pump pulses!The new kits are getting better,cheaper and can handle more HP every year.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #40 (permalink)  
Old 01-17-2012, 08:53 AM
zildjian4life218's Avatar
Listen and Learn
 
Last wiki edit: DIY junkyard electrical fan controller
Last journal entry: SBC 305 Twin Turbo
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: WNY/Rochester, New York
Age: 25
Posts: 1,512
Wiki Edits: 7

Thanks: 41
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleMark
But you can modify your chip socket to put in a newer EEPROM so you just click erase and burn a thousand times if you want. So that is a little more work,
What do you have to do to take an older TPI, or TBI computer to convert it to EEPROM? When I say older I mean 86-95
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #41 (permalink)  
Old 01-17-2012, 09:15 AM
zildjian4life218's Avatar
Listen and Learn
 
Last wiki edit: DIY junkyard electrical fan controller
Last journal entry: SBC 305 Twin Turbo
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: WNY/Rochester, New York
Age: 25
Posts: 1,512
Wiki Edits: 7

Thanks: 41
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 396375
MSD has a new system that dosn't require a return fuel line.The fuel pump pulses!
Its called Pulse Width Modulation and many factory EFI system incorporate this. I believe late 90s mustangs used it too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Modern Electronic Engines posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vortecs on a 400 SB, the cheapest way dallam11 Engine 13 08-17-2008 03:01 AM
Cheapest 4 Link Kit.. h0trod389 Suspension - Brakes - Steering 1 01-27-2007 12:51 PM
cheapest 351 w build 82c10 Engine 1 06-14-2005 10:04 AM
Cheapest possible rod Nightfire General Rodding Tech 31 04-13-2004 09:06 PM
Cheapest Speed? manofsteel Hotrodders' Lounge 13 10-30-2002 05:59 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.