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Old 01-31-2009, 02:38 PM
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Cheapie spray gun saves the day!

If you have read much of what I leave on these autobody forums you will know I preach GOOD TOOLS, they are worth their price. I also say, there is a time and place for the cheap tool, and this is one that saved me. Not that I couldn't have done this with a good gun, it just worked out well with the cheapie.

I was shooting my trunk with Zoletone down at the shop. Had the thing all masked, epoxy primed, ready to go. I had remembered shooting Zoletone out of a "body shutz" (sp?) in the past but haven't used it a few decades so I guess my memory isn't what it used to be. Anyway, I got the gun walked in there and started shooting the Zoletone and there was NO WAY, it was way too heavy, CRAP. All masked up on the weekend, I must finish it today so we can use the booth Monday so I am screwed. I know it takes a BIG tip to shoot it and I remembered I had bought a 2.0 cheapie on eBay a while ago for my polyester primer. (click here for the Ebay ad) Someone had mentioned this gun here on the forum I believe. I went over there, saw it at less than $20 shipping and all and bought it, done deal. It's been hanging in my garage, hadn't even opened it. Well, I ran home and go it, opened up the package, poured in the Zoletone and went to work. It did a great jjob! It cleaned up for the next time I need it with polyester primer.



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If you have read much of what I leave on these autobody forums you will know I preach GOOD TOOLS, they are worth their price. I also say, there is a time and place for the cheap tool, and this is one that saved me. Not that I couldn't have done this with a good gun, it just worked out well with the cheapie.

I was shooting my trunk with Zoletone down at the shop. Had the thing all masked, epoxy primed, ready to go. I had remembered shooting Zoletone out of a "body shutz" (sp?) in the past but haven't used it a few decades so I guess my memory isn't what it used to be. Anyway, I got the gun walked in there and started shooting the Zoletone and there was NO WAY, it was way too heavy, CRAP. All masked up on the weekend, I must finish it today so we can use the booth Monday so I am screwed. I know it takes a BIG tip to shoot it and I remembered I had bought a 2.0 cheapie on eBay a while ago for my polyester primer. (click here for the Ebay ad) Someone had mentioned this gun here on the forum I believe. I went over there, saw it at less than $20 shipping and all and bought it, done deal. It's been hanging in my garage, hadn't even opened it. Well, I ran home and go it, opened up the package, poured in the Zoletone and went to work. It did a great jjob! It cleaned up for the next time I need it with polyester primer.



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Who's to say Cheap can not be good, at certain times.
I also have cheap Devilbliss knock off spray gun, it works great for primers.........MC
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My el cheapo Harbor freight 43430 gun gave me an excellent paint job on my 34.

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it may also have something to do with the skill of the professional using it. buts its good to know , iam using a cheap gun for my epoxy primer and want to get a some what better gun to shoot the colors. but i still need to keep the price down to around 150
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Same here. I use a cheap campbellhausfield whatever for many years now and seems to do a decent job.
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You can't get much cheaper than less than $10 NEW! I don't like the guns cup being it has a push in aluminum lid that doesn't fit worth a crap. But it is a side mounted cup that has a pivot on it so you can set it upright when the gun is tilted for spraying a floor for instance, that is kinda nice. But the lid is SERIOUS junk.

It got the job done though!

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I only use cheap guns for primer work but sometimes you can get a Lemon. There isn't a lot of quality control. I just can't see the logic of spending $300-$500 for a primer gun. Astro gets my vote for the best of the cheap guns.
Brian, did you know that the Zolatone was actually a two stage process at the factory? It's pretty much impossible to accurately duplicate it with a one step paint. I've got a project in the shop now that needs to be 100% correct and plan to test and tune untill I get the proceedure down for an accurate match.
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Do you have some info on the exact process? I don't care to even think about it on this car, just a driver. But I would be interested just for intrest sakes as to how they did it.

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All I know is theyt had two guns going, one for the base color and the other applied the dots. And there are varying degrees of dot size and the impact pressure used. The West coast cars had stringy looking dots compared to the detroit made cars and I believe that was related to temperature. None of the 1-step coatings provide an accurate match.
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This may be helpful

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Here's some zolatone examples Zolatone and they look nothing like the GM factory stuff
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