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Chev Small Block Cam Question...
Hi Members,
I am rebuilding a 1970 Corvette LT-1 (350cu, 370hp) that I have owned for 20 years. The block is original. I have refreshed the stock heads (2.02 & 1.60). When I purchased the car, 20 years ago, it had a Chambers Max One camshaft in it. I am considering changing it to either the originial Chev cam (P/N 3972182) or a cam from a Corvette, 327cu, 365/375 h.p.(P/N 3849346) that the specs seem to indicate has a bit more intake duration but a slightly different overlap. I will be using the prescribed Holley 4555 carb on either a '69 Z28 Alum. HiRise intake manifold, or on a Chev. replacement 1970 LT-1 Alum. HiRise intake manifold. Question - Which camshaft should I use? Which intake manifold should I use? I would appreciate you thoughts on these questions and the basis in which you base your recommendations. Also, do you have any recommendations as to where I can obtain those original, new camshafts? Thank you, |
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moving this to the engine forum.
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I know nothing about the Chambers cam, but if your happy with it and it doesn't exhibit wear, I be tempted to stick with it. The factory cams tend to be quite rampy so out if their apparent long durations, when measured from .050 lift really are fairly mild. Lobe Separation Angle (LSA) greatly influences idle and manifold vacuum. Long LSAs say 112 degrees and up tend to reduce over lap which improves idle quality and manifold vacuum. Short LSAs under 112 increase overlap giving the engine more of a staccato idle and reduces manifold vacuum. These are easier to live with when the car has a manual transmission and no vacuum assisted brake. Long LSAs tend to boost bottom end torque, which is good with an automatic and can be well used to get more duration and lift into the cam without forcing a high stall converter into the equation. The LT4 Gen II HOT cam is an excellent example of this where you have pretty aggressive lobes but overall a decent idle, high manifold vacuum with high torque and a pretty darn good top end. Bogie Last edited by oldbogie; 12-21-2007 at 02:25 PM. |
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I have an LT-1 In my '68 Vette. My machinist ordered an LT-1 cam from Dema Elgin at Elgin Cams. It' a duplicate of the original although probably more true to the design specs. It idles at 800 RPM with 16.5 inches of vacuum. The specs on this cam are 316/336 at lash point and 242/254 at .050. Lift at the valve is .459/.485 and LSA is 116. Like Bogie says this wide lobe seperation angle makes for better manners at idle. My vette has an M-21 with a 3.70 axle and this cam works well with that set up. It can pull up a rather steep grade in 4th at 1200 RPM with no bucks, shudders or clatters. Cruise vacuum is about 25 inches and I have to really get on it to drop the vacuum below 8 inches.
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Duplicate Cams
All the big name Cam companies make Duplicates of the LTI/L79/Z28 cam and other muscle car cams. Comp, Crane, Elgin etc. There easy to find now. Comps Part # for GM3849346-LTI/L79/Z28 is 12-107-3 and some others for 302-350ci / 300-350HP cams are 12-105-3, 12-106-3.
Last edited by SSedan64; 12-21-2007 at 05:24 PM. Reason: spelling |
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You seem to be lumping the LT-1,L-79 & Z-28 together as if the cams are the same.
This is incorrect. The L-79 is hydraulic, and as mentioned in an earlier post, the LT-1 cam has a different PN from the Z-28/327-365HP cam. To Corvette70LT-1: My opinion is: Since it's a numbers matching car, I would use the original cam & manifold. JA |
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They have 2 other #'s for Hydraulic for 327ci & 350ci GM3896929,CC12-105-3, Lift-.390/.410, Dur-195*/202* L/S-112* GM3863151,CC12-106-3, Lift-.447/.447, Dur-222*/222* L/S-114* Last edited by SSedan64; 12-21-2007 at 06:56 PM. Reason: correction |
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If that's what Comp is selling as a '70 LT-1/Z28 cam then they are wrong. The original cam has the specs that I quoted in my earlier post. Here are the specs on the original again: At .050 lift, 242/254, Lobe centers 110 int,/122 exh, LSA 116, intake opens 10 btdc, closes 52 abdc, Exhaust opens 68 bbdc, closes 6 atdc. The last cam you listed looks like the 327 L-79. It was a hyd. lifter cam and I think that the duration was222/222 The lifts on the LT-1/Z28 cam are .459/.485 not .485/.485
Last edited by Will H; 12-21-2007 at 07:19 PM. Reason: add lift |
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Kinda wonder what your intentions really are. Offering opinions on this really depends on that. You wanna be original, go with the gm grind and intake and be done. You wanna step it up a bit I'd go with a comp cams nostalgia cam. There close but the lift versus duration isn't as screwed up as the old grinds. and the opening closing rates really do make a different animal, just dont forget to match new springs, they get old and tired. As for intakes, vettes kinda limit your picks, hood clearance and all, but when your not hunting for max perf. any good dual plane that'll fit under should fit the cause. Sory, kinda vague, again, goes back to what YOU want.
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