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Old 05-09-2005, 12:57 PM
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Chevy is in deep doo doo

The 07 Shelby GT-500 is coming. And its being pulled by 500 horses. All under $40K. What's that do to the Vette at close to $70? As a DIEHARD bowtie boy, its got me looking HARD at it. I love the 05's. Almost bought one, but am waiting on the "new" camaros, that may or may not be produced. With GMs focus on the SUV(which doesn't make sense with gas $), and the redesigned Cobalt for the tuners (which is dying) , we are left with buying a truck or a skateboard. The SSR is a dismal disappointment. The only CAR worthwhile is the Vette, but who want a mortgage for a car payment? Dodge has Vipers, Crossfires,,,even their darn "stationwagons" are sporty with HEMIs!


So to change brands, I regret that I have to liquidate inventory..

(2) 05 Cavaliers (Daughters will be torqued !!)
04 Tahoe
01 Silverado
71 Nova
65 Chevelle
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:08 PM
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I'll never ever buy another NEW car...

Last one I bought was a 75 Monza 2+2 spider with a sbc and 4spd trans. When I went shopping for my caddy I looked at 01's and 02's and bought a 00 for less than 18K. My wife is driving an 01 Ford explorer and I have a 91 Explorer for a work car/truck. That stang is sweet though and I like the retro look of the 06's!!!


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Old 05-09-2005, 01:59 PM
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The GT-500 "only" has 450 horses. But still is cheaper then a base model vette and could even compete with the zo6 and viper. Plus the factory supercharge makes it easy to upgrade.
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Have not told my wife but as i drive been thinking about what color to buy!
Its always easier to explain why you bought it than to get permission.

My favorite saying on here is under DOCVETTE name.

"Chevy a division of Corvette"

That says it all!
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:42 PM
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meh...i really dont give two nutz anymore, because those new buick lineups are pretty sweet...

can i have ur nova?

promise i'll take care of it?

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Old 05-09-2005, 06:15 PM
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Make mine a drop-top,red with white interior and top.Drop front end about 2", put on a set of retro looking wheels, give it a cool sounding set of pipes and I'm there. Talk about a time machine!


Just don't tell my wife!
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Just think, the list price maybe under 40, well, that is until the dealers get it in the show room and jack it up.

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Old 05-10-2005, 06:17 AM
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I think it was Hot Rod magazine, just did a report on it. They said 500 hp.

Dutch- I don't think they will deep discount it, but I don't think it will sell over list either. We'll find out next year !
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So . . what's your point? GM has been clueless for decades and is slowly going out of business, witness their recent bond rating reduction to junk bond status. Incidentally, Ford is pretty much in the same boat - their bonds were de-rated to the same status at the same time. A huge danger to any company is getting too big and too bureaucratic. Unless some rebel star can occasionally beat the system as Arkus Duntov did in the 50s and John DeLorean did in the 60s, big companies conserve their way into oblivion. A great read on this topic is 1982 best seller, "In search of Excellence" by Tom Peters and Robert Waterman. They studied a bunch of Fortune 500 companies to see why some prospered and others just got by. They found the excellent ones consistently excelled in the following eight areas;


1. A bias for action, active decision making - 'getting on with it'.
2. Close to the customer - learning from the people served by the business.
3. Autonomy and entrepreneurship - fostering innovation and nurturing 'champions'.
4. Productivity through people - treating rank and file employees as a source of quality.
5. Hands-on, value-driven - management philosophy that guides everyday practice - management showing its commitment.
6. Stick to the knitting - stay with the business that you know.
7. Simple form, lean staff - some of the best companies have minimal HQ staff.
8. Simultaneous loose-tight properties - autonomy in shop-floor activities plus centralized values.

Which of those principles come to mind when you think of Ford or GM?
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I think it was Hot Rod magazine, just did a report on it. They said 500 hp.
Everywhere Ive read said that its either 450hp or "more then" 450hp, i read an article in motor trend that said a even more powerful model was in the works but was scrapped, I guess they didn't want a 500hp mustang competing with their precious 150k dollar ford gt.
Heres some stuff on the gt-500: stangnet ford svt
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Old 05-10-2005, 09:08 AM
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So to change brands, I regret that I have to liquidate inventory..

(2) 05 Cavaliers (Daughters will be torqued !!)
04 Tahoe
01 Silverado
71 Nova
65 Chevelle
39 2 door sedan
I have:
05 Cavalier
03 Tahoe Z71
66 Caprice

I bought the Tahoe and Cavalier from the same dealer. When I bought the Cavalier, I upgraded the radio to a MP3 player, and was told I had a $100 credit for the old radio. So, I said fine, I want a smokers kit and a cargo net. That was back in January, and after many phone calls I still get pissed every time I light up because you can't put a regular cigarette lighter in the 12V accessory socket - it wont work! If I could figure out how to get the stupid socket out without cracking plastic, I would change it myself. In the GM customer survey, there are going to get poor marks for that when I send it in. I definitely will not buy another car from that dealer again, but I'll probably buy another GM car in the future.
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I have:
05 Cavalier
03 Tahoe Z71
66 Caprice

I bought the Tahoe and Cavalier from the same dealer. When I bought the Cavalier, I upgraded the radio to a MP3 player, and was told I had a $100 credit for the old radio. So, I said fine, I want a smokers kit and a cargo net. That was back in January, and after many phone calls I still get pissed every time I light up because you can't put a regular cigarette lighter in the 12V accessory socket - it wont work! If I could figure out how to get the stupid socket out without cracking plastic, I would change it myself. In the GM customer survey, there are going to get poor marks for that when I send it in. I definitely will not buy another car from that dealer again, but I'll probably buy another GM car in the future.
Well . . . . I actually think GM did you a favor by making smoking more difficult.
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Old 05-10-2005, 09:47 AM
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7. Simple form, lean staff - some of the best companies have minimal HQ staff
Too many chiefs and not enough Indians...this has been said of GM for many years, it takes an average of 7 years to incorporate any major changes in their lineup.
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So to change brands, I regret that I have to liquidate inventory..
Buy the girls new Mustangs, I think they will be ok with that. I was talking with a Ford dealer a few weeks back, 5 speeds are in high demand, i guess they get better mileage, no luxury tax.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
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ya ford is kicking ***, Dodge sucks with their wanna be "charger" Mustang GT's are sold out, and I get to like em more and more
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Gotta love those new Mustangs but for that price I could have a pretty nice 65-70 4 speed fastback and change left over. Then five years down the road have a car worth maybe double what I paid instead of about 25%.
When Chevy axed the Camero and started pimping the front drive performance it was obvious where their mentality had gone. They almost lost Cadillac a few years back because thier heads were where the sun doesn't shine.
But I don't think the government will ever let one of the big three sink. They would bail them out like they did Chrysler in the 70s-80s.
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