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Old 07-15-2005, 12:31 PM
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Last nite I Bought a 63 Chevy II 2dr and a 65 Nova 4dr, $400 for the pair, i am thinking the 4rd runs, and it's in real nice shape, i was thinking unbolting the front clip and subframe on 65 and putting under the 63. the 63 is still 4 lug wheels, plans with the 2dr are a sbc and a turbo 350. maybe 350hp, i pick them up Monday and will post pics. i will know more when i get them home, the 2dr front clip might be ok, i know the RH front fender is in the car. the interior of the 2dr is mostly gutted. i guess if the front clip is good on the 2dr then i might put a mustang II IFS under it (i've heard a bunch of bad stuff about the mustang II IFS) i guess time will tell. I would like to upgrade the breaks and suspension. Where do I find parts for this ? Or is there another way? my sons 13 and gung ho. i'm wanting narrow front wheels and jacked up in the rear with big tires in the rear kinda late 60s 70s look. and not sure on rear end set up.


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Wow! No one wrote to you... Neat shy looking cars.Must have 6 cylinder engines.Brake upgrades should not be difficult.Maybe a stock newer model is enough.I would not go through the hassle of changing front suspensions.Just rebuild it.Good luck.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:29 PM
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Well if you want bigger tires in the rear, then you'll need more power! Maybe swap in a 305 or even a 327! Maybe a ford 9" rear and you've got a sweet ride!
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:20 PM
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plan is a 350 with a 350 turbo tranny. i like this idea for rear frame, just need rear end. http://www.streetrodparts.tv/nova-rear.htm still unsure bout front end yet.
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Old 07-18-2005, 07:21 PM
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being a chevy 2 owner my self.Deuces are rear steer so you cant just throw on any ole set of disk brakes. They make all kinds of conversion kits some more complete than others but you will pay around 500.00 for a good set. $400.00for both ??!! WoW thats a heck of a deal. you can part the 4 door out on ebay and get more than that!
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:35 AM
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67 Deuce 4 me what do you think of this deal ? http://nnnova.com/discbrakes.html what did you do 4 power steering ? and what motor and tranny did you choose ? will the 65 front subframe and front clip (fenders hood grill) fit the 63 ? any other advice you can give me ? i will post pics.



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If you choose an aftermarket clip such as the one offered by Heights I want to make you aware of an important fact that the manufactured fails to tell anyone. From the factory the motor is offset to the passengers compartment by about 1 1/2 of an inch to make room for controls, steering, padals etc... The aftermarket front end centers the motor which results in driveshaft tunnel clearence problems and will not allow you to use a factory radiator fan shroud. I used a Heights front end and had to make modifications after I discovered this fact. If I were to do it again I would have cut and rewelded the motor mounts to put the engine back in the stock location. Aside from that problem I found that the Mustang front end was a vast improvement to the stock set up.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:20 PM
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this offset is on all factory 6 cylinder and V8 cars ? the 65 front subframe i'm thinking about using is a original factory 6 cylinder car. the 63 was a 6 cylinder also. heres some pics. there 2 new rear 1/4 windows in the trunk for he 2dr that have a Chevy BowTie etched in them, it's prob 3" X 4" looks kinda neat. still need RH door glass.


















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no need to change front ends around unless the 2 doors front is damaged.all you need to swap a V 8 in is a special oil pan bought mine off e bay for 70.00 and a set a v8 engine mounts. or you can just buy a conversion kit also available on e bay less than 300.00 you get everything you need pan, mounts/etc. as for power steering. mine doesn't have it. does'nt need it. Just more weight to slow you down. that car weighs less than 3000lbs steering is easy.Yes the front end swap to rack and pinion steering is super nice and super expensive. I have a 450 horse 388 with a 350 turbo. drives just fine. just make sure your components are in good cond ...... ball joints, tie rod ends etc.. more people have the orig set up than the rack & pinion.although good headers are very expensive for the stock front. Hope this helps you a little. Ed
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The blue one looks real good! Those parts that you found look pretty good with an ok price. I like the 327's because you can get a good 350 hp out of them. But the choice is yours and good luck with your build!
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Very cool! Make sure you guard the headlight eyebrows on the 1965. They are highly sought after and often stolen. Both have parts readily available, OEM as well as aftermarket. Hope you start a project journal and keep pictures of progress for all to see. When I get time I'll post pictures of my 67 Chevy Nova.
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thanks guys, i will start a journal. prob be starting in the winter. my son wants to drive the 4 dr, not sure what it's motor trouble is yet, haven't even tried to start it, but the oil looks milky like it has water in it, it's a straight 6. but the front fenders on the 2dr is rusty above one head light and behind front tire. i want the 5 lug spindles off the 4dr on the 2dr, so then i can get wheels & i can do disc brake set up. i'm gona go look at a couple more 4 drs sat. this 4dr is really to nice to tear up. (my plan with the 4dr was to unbolt the subframe and front clip all in one piece and roll under the 2dr, i agree those mustang II front ends are big money) i would like to make it run good and let my wife and son drive it, maybe put a different rear bumper on it, if i can get these other 4drs as parts cars. i'm real serious about this rear subframe http://www.streetrodparts.tv/nova-rear.htm and either a ford 9" or a 10 bolt GM. how much trouble is shoe horning a V8 and putting a set of headers in this stock front end with a sbc ? i had the guy from the body shop look at the 2dr RH rear 1/4 he said to go to a frame shop 1st to make sure floor is not buckled and then start of square, so my body lines match up, and he will put the 1/4 on. it don't look bad but someone has pounded that quarter out,
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how much trouble is shoe horning a V8 and putting a set of headers in this stock front end with a sbc ?
It's not much trouble. I installed a Chevy 283 in my 1962 Nova. It's been a few years, but if I remember, it was just a matter of setting the motor mounts up correctly. The most trouble I had was changing the 3,4,5,6 spark plugs. They were tight getting past the shock towers. Just make sure the front end is tight with a good set of shocks and you should be good to go.
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thanks everyone, any complete disc brake kits that you can post web sites ? i want disc with a V8.






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might want to check out "Global West" they have alot of front suspension parts to improve the econo set up that chevy installed on the these cars. They have a conversion kit for disc brakes that you can use "A" body pieces to finish the swap. It worked for me, although I had 70 monte carlo suspension parts laying around my stock pile.
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