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Old 03-03-2012, 06:30 PM
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Oh dear God if we only bought ANY car because it was "Cheaper" or some BS like that we would never buy one. Hell, I could have rebuilt the motor and trans and painted my Windstar for what I paid for the used Caravan I replaced it with.

Just what is the gas going to cost on any car you buy? How much is the gas going to cost on that Malibu over it's life time? LIFE TIME, think about it, figuring 200,000 at 5 bucks a gallon you are going to spend $28,570.

You could have bought a used pickup with a V8 that gets a third of the mileage and it would have cost you less for truck and gas than the Malibu and gas!

So lets toss "save money" out of the argument right now, it's foolish to even think that you are going to "save money" with ANY car. We are talking about moving ahead, changing out ways. And if we ARE going to go out and buy a new car, why not make it something like the Volt, what exactly would it hurt?

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Oh dear God if we only bought ANY car because it was "Cheaper" or some BS like that we would never buy one. Hell, I could have rebuilt the motor and trans and painted my Windstar for what I paid for the used Caravan I replaced it with.

Just what is the gas going to cost on any car you buy? How much is the gas going to cost on that Malibu over it's life time? LIFE TIME, think about it, figuring 200,000 at 5 bucks a gallon you are going to spend $28,570.

You could have bought a used pickup with a V8 that gets a third of the mileage and it would have cost you less for truck and gas than the Malibu and gas!

So lets toss "save money" out of the argument right now, it's foolish to even think that you are going to "save money" with ANY car. We are talking about moving ahead, changing out ways. And if we ARE going to go out and buy a new car, why not make it something like the Volt, what exactly would it hurt?

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Well Brian, Idid buy a C1500 (1990) for 1000 bucks n dropped a real nice n fast SBC in there ,also my 67 Camaro has a strong 496 in it,91 vette runs that 350 pretty strong n my 99 2 door tahoe 4*4 is my daily driver,the Malibu was her choice,so she bought it
Speaking for myself,think Ill wait till the Flux Capacitor comes out to buy an electric car
I never checked the milage on the P/U but I bet you are right on
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Oh dear God if we only bought ANY car because it was "Cheaper" or some BS like that we would never buy one. Hell, I could have rebuilt the motor and trans and painted my Windstar for what I paid for the used Caravan I replaced it with.

Just what is the gas going to cost on any car you buy? How much is the gas going to cost on that Malibu over it's life time? LIFE TIME, think about it, figuring 200,000 at 5 bucks a gallon you are going to spend $28,570.

You could have bought a used pickup with a V8 that gets a third of the mileage and it would have cost you less for truck and gas than the Malibu and gas!

So lets toss "save money" out of the argument right now, it's foolish to even think that you are going to "save money" with ANY car. We are talking about moving ahead, changing out ways. And if we ARE going to go out and buy a new car, why not make it something like the Volt, what exactly would it hurt?

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As more buy, the economies of scale come into play. Those very expensive batteries will drop in price, spurring more purchases. If gas engined cars were at low production numbers, then they would be expensive to build. But hey, this is a hot rod forum, so lets embrace the hot rod potential of the electric motor, and that is all available torque at 0 rpm. Until you drive one, you are missing an experience. I've driven a friend's Tesla, single speed, and even though I've been known to be wordy, that driving experience was too cool to describe, instant, powerful acceleration at any speed, no need to downshift to wake up a sleepy ICE.

Case in point, some of you know I picked up a new Cad CTS-V, 556 hp on tap, but at 50 mph in 6th gear and about 1200 rpm, mash the pedal and not a whole lot happens until you pull a few gears.

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As more buy, the economies of scale come into play. Those very expensive batteries will drop in price, spurring more purchases. If gas engined cars were at low production numbers, then they would be expensive to build. But hey, this is a hot rod forum, so lets embrace the hot rod potential of the electric motor, and that is all available torque at 0 rpm. Until you drive one, you are missing an experience. I've driven a friend's Tesla, single speed, and even though I've been known to be wordy, that driving experience was too cool to describe, instant, powerful acceleration at any speed, no need to downshift to wake up a sleepy ICE.
Brian, man you are gettin popular,thats two quotes in a row!
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I'll tell you Bob, driving that damn Leaf was a kick, like I have said before if you are a real hot rodder you are interesting in all aspects of the hobby. Electric has something to offer the hotrodder as much as it does the commuter.

I just find it so damn funny how people look at it like whites looked at the blacks in the 50's, "Them people are nuttin but trouble".

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Brian,

I wasn't going to go there, but the thought always crosses my mind when folks that haven't any experience in said vehicles, can be so vocal on their lack of merits.


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Here we go again !!!!!

Just because SOME people don't want it... We are this !!!! and we are that !!!! because we like what is there already... And don't want a hotrod I have to plug up... Really stupid... And childish...


Not everyone likes hot dog or hamburger's.. That don't mean something's wrong with them.... Man !!!!
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You are right in that we all don't have to want an electric hot rod. But it's so funny how people attack the idea of anyone owning one, it's weird. It's like "They" want to marry our daughters.

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Listen junior, I have never tired to push my concept of a hot rod on you. I would expect the same courtesy from you. You have trolled me here on Rodders ever since you left another forum in an ego driven huff. I've been OK with it for a long time now, but it is getting a bit tiring, don't you think?
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Listen junior, I have never tired to push my concept of a hot rod on you. I would expect the same courtesy from you. You have trolled me here on Rodders ever since you left another forum in an ego driven huff. I've been OK with it for a long time now, but it is getting a bit tiring, don't you think?

Listen Junior....LOL

Your funny... I never pushed anything on you either.... But when y'all start saying the stupid things,, Like it's a black and white thing,,, I will say what's on my mine... This is the second time this black and white thing is said... And I don't like it.... Your just p****** because I don't agree with you... And I never will.. That's my choice...You like what you like..That's fine !!! But don't start with your JUNIOR ******* with me...

Don't think I ever disrespected you.. Don't try it with me..
You want to go toe to toe with me that fine too...
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You are right in that we all don't have to want an electric hot rod. But it's so funny how people attack the idea of anyone owning one, it's weird. It's like "They" want to marry our daughters.

Brian

Not trying to attack anyone... Just don't start this black and white Bull **** again because we don't want to play at your rules...




Y'all made a comment towards the people that don't like it,,, No one every made that comment towards y'all..
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Randy, it was me who said the black and white thing. This isn't a big deal here, I used that as an example because I see the same sort of hatred on anything electric (except hand tools ). Don't take it personal, I know you don't like the electric car but it isn't aimed at you for goodness sakes. Your thoughts are the same as many many people, on this forum and all over the place. Not picking on anyone in general, just making a general statement.

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Randy, it was me who said the black and white thing. This isn't a big deal here, I used that as an example because I see the same sort of hatred on anything electric (except hand tools ). Don't take it personal, I know you don't like the electric car but it isn't aimed at you for goodness sakes. Your thoughts are the same as many many people, on this forum and all over the place. Not picking on anyone in general, just making a general statement.

Brian

Well.. I'm sure you read where Mr. Deckofficer made his comment's about the people down south about Change on the same topic here... Now I know you didn't over look that comment here before.. Funny how you both agree on this and make the same comments.... Now that seem's a little funny if you ask me..
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OK Randy,

I'll drop the junior, the attitude I took with you was uncalled for and out of character for me. I apologize. The thread however is about the Chevy Volt, and I would think anyone who has a disdain for electric cars, founded or not, would just ignore the thread.

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Well.. I'm sure you read where Mr. Deckofficer made his comment's about the people down south about Change on the same topic here... Now I know you didn't over look that comment here before.. Funny how you both agree on this and make the same comments.... Now that seem's a little funny if you ask me..
Yeah it's shocking two people on the same page, my the worlds must have collided. I don't even remember him saying that because I typically don't store stuff in my head like that. Honestly Randy, it's like any other opinion if you make any comment at all you are "dissing" anyone who feels the opposite IF they want to be "dissed". But honestly, any subject, if you disagree with anything ever said by those standards you are dissing them. Now, that isn't fact because you can disagree with someone and even say something like it reminds you of the civil rights movement and it is just a general statement. Unless your name is mentioned or a direct quote or something, it is just a general statement.

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