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I would buy another Pinto

If they still made them I had 5 of them and ran tiill the rust killed them but I drove them to the junk yard and took the battery home

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I want small cars. If I could buy a new TRUE Micro car in the US, I would buy one. I've liked the idea of micro cars for commuting since WAY before gas was $2.50 a gallon. It irritates me when a car manufacture builds a pretty cool new econo car, but then over the next few years it keeps getting bigger, more powerfull, more options and 1/4 the milage it first had, at which point people quit buying it and the manufacture says "the public wasn't interested in an economy car so we quit building it". I'm still not interested in the electric cars, for reasons I've pointed out earlier, but I do want a small, super basic GAS economy commuter car. I currently own a 99 Suzuki Swift (Geo Metro) that I use to commute with, and it's 35-40+ MPG is still way better than most of the new "economy" cars built today, including some hybrids. Some people think the Suzuki/Metro is beneath them to drive, but I just stuck a Cadillac emblem on the rear hatch and stick my nose up in the air when I drive it. we blend right in that way and I smile as I pass every gas station.

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Well Russ maybe you want one but every one that does there are 1000 that don't. I agree that us old guys are being forced out of our big cars or p/u's but they will have to get my ashes to get me in anything less than my 33. When gas gets high enough they will change.

Gas won't go down if they start digging in this country or not, they want it at at least a $100.00 a barrel now they might want more.

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As long as they we will choose to "need" it, then in a free market, they can and will charge as much as they can. If we accept that, then we have no right to complain.
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As long as they we will choose to "need" it, then in a free market, they can and will charge as much as they can. If we accept that, then we have no right to complain.
Hawk what thread are we on, I agree but no one seems to be yelling to loud yet.

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Yeh buddy going on two threads is fun but I got to get to bed. I still have to watch the news to see what I didn't like happened. Have a good one.
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Well, all us old farts are being drug into the future whether we like it or not. The Volt didn't sell well now, but it will in the not to distant future. Blacksmiths didn't think that the horseless carriage would catch on, radio didn't think TV would last, Blockbuster Video didn't anticipate NetFlix, on and on.
So I bet my electric car is faster than your electric car, that competition will never end.
I didn't read all 23 pages of this thread, so if this is a repost, sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOTewHnwVGI
The vid was a re-post, but no problem, you have an enlightened attitude, so welcome. I didn't think this thread could or would turn into a "for vs against" debate, but like you, I think the writing is on the wall.
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It's like that web based grocery shopping site that we had in the bay area. They spent millions upon millions of dollars and it lasted about two years at most, and they were gone. Right after they folded Safeway, a large west coast chain put a few trucks at their stores and it has been very successful.

There will be a time, the electric car is catching on, it is just around the corner. The public is warming up to it with the hybrids, and one day they will be all over the place.


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It's like that web based grocery shopping site that we had in the bay area. They spent millions upon millions of dollars and it lasted about two years at most, and they were gone. Right after they folded Safeway, a large west coast chain put a few trucks at their stores and it has been very successful.

There will be a time, the electric car is catching on, it is just around the corner. The public is warming up to it with the hybrids, and one day they will be all over the place.


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Brian,

And most of us are young enough to be able to witness the evolution. Just as my 92 year old dad watched it from the other end, when the electrics were more popular than gas because of the unsafe hand cranking of the gas engine.
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As long as they we will choose to "need" it, then in a free market, they can and will charge as much as they can. If we accept that, then we have no right to complain.
Sorry, that should have said: "As long as we will choose to "need" it, then in a free market, they can and will charge as much as they can. If we accept that, then we have no right to complain."




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Hawk what thread are we on, I agree but no one seems to be yelling to loud yet.

Bob

Yeh buddy going on two threads is fun but I got to get to bed. I still have to watch the news to see what I didn't like happened. Have a good one.
I hear ya. It did get confusing bouncing back and forth between the two threads. Hopefully the news wasn't too bad. Nite night Bob.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:31 AM
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Brian,

And most of us are young enough to be able to witness the evolution. Just as my 92 year old dad watched it from the other end, when the electrics were more popular than gas because of the unsafe hand cranking of the gas engine.
Yep from what I remember reading, before the electric starter motor electric cars out numbered gas ones.

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ONLY WAY THE ELECTRIC CAR is going to "catch on" is if we change from coal fired electric plants.. not likely to happen as seen as the greeniesthat want everyone in a zero emmissions car are the same ones that bark at nuke power.. or wind power.. , the not in my backyard overrided a greenies "green" when it affect their view(wind) or fear of feeling safe (nuke power)..

UNTILL that changes, or they are forced to deal with the green b/s they shove down everyone else. it never happen.
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stich626, and you can add river and tidal turbines to that list too of alternative methods opposed by environmentalists.

Despite the fact that turbines placed on the bottom of the Mississippi River could generate sufficient permanent and steady power to provide huge amounts of electricity, nearly all the recent submitted projects have failed to progress at all. It's almost like people think these turbines would be whirling around at 1000's of rpms. Turbines have the advantage that river flow is pretty consistent and would require far less reliance on the needed stand-by power that plagues sources such as wind and solar.

Personally I'd love to see an affordable and viable electric car, I mean which auto enthusiast wouldn't with its just about flat and instantaneous torque.
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To get a better picture of this car, I decided to check the consumer reviews of the Volt on Edmunds.com and its got a solid 5 star average rating: 2012 Chevrolet Volt Consumer Reviews . Worth a browse for those who are interested in realistic owner feedback.
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stich626, and you can add river and tidal turbines to that list too of alternative methods opposed by environmentalists.

Despite the fact that turbines placed on the bottom of the Mississippi River could generate sufficient permanent and steady power to provide huge amounts of electricity, nearly all the recent submitted projects have failed to progress at all. It's almost like people think these turbines would be whirling around at 1000's of rpms. Turbines have the advantage that river flow is pretty consistent and would require far less reliance on the needed stand-by power that plagues sources such as wind and solar.

Personally I'd love to see an affordable and viable electric car, I mean which auto enthusiast wouldn't with its just about flat and instantaneous torque.
but the fishies.......
they can make them so the fish go through unharmed.. greenies are such b/s

yes me love me an electric car econo box.. make it the size of a british car of the 60-70's and a radio.. done.. about 1500 lb's
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