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Old 01-04-2004, 07:11 PM
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There is every kind of engine you can think of under the hood of race cars somewhere. That doesn't mean anything. They aren't using the low cube 50s Hemi's in the race cars I think you are talking about either. In fact I bet the ones you are talking about are the all aluminum aftermarket castings anyway.

Jealousy? I have a '73 Challenger.

While dodge is bragging about their rehash Hemi, they should look on the other side of the fence at Ford's new V10. Even Ford's old Triton V10 is cooler than the new Hemi.

This should be Dodge's commercial:
That thing got a Hemi?

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Old 01-04-2004, 07:16 PM
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Sorry, Crazy, ....didn't mean to rile ya..................

Thats just something I like to do, ruffle a few feathers........

I have a bunch of Mopar fans and Ford fans for friends, and its my way of getting them going. By the way, its the same here, The Chryco boys have a shorter fuse.......................
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Old 01-04-2004, 07:23 PM
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There is every kind of engine you can think of under the hood of race cars somewhere. That doesn't mean anything. They aren't using the low cube 50s Hemi's in the race cars I think you are talking about either. In fact I bet the ones you are talking about are the all aluminum aftermarket castings anyway.

Jealousy? I have a '73 Challenger.

While dodge is bragging about their rehash Hemi, they should look on the other side of the fence at Ford's new V10. Even Ford's old Triton V10 is cooler than the new Hemi.

This should be Dodge's commercial:
That thing got a Hemi?
Who siad anything about a "low cube 50's hemi"?

Hemi engines were/are used in the most EXTREME forms of motorsport, and have a race heritage equaled by WHAT?

This thread is about Chevy versus Ford, and a couple of babies have tossed in some insults which don't belong here.

Poncho- are you just a troll too? You post to "ruffle feathers"?
Why not post some UP CLOSE pictures of the cars/trucks you've owned, so we can see where you are coming from? Show us what makes you so dominant?


I don't see a "shorter fuse" from the Chryco guys, I see a couple of jerks tossing around insults trying to cause trouble, and after the crap that has gone on here I think maybe those TRYING to cause trouble should be looked at by Jon next?
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Its called "kidding around"....................

I shouldn't have said "short fuse". You have no fuse.....I'm done now
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Yeah, Stonedchihuahua was just "kidding around" too.
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As far as 350 vs. 351...Id say dollar for dollar the 350 Chevy wins, doesnt mean the chevys better....just means Chevys parts are cheaper. [/B][/QUOTE]

I think stepside is right on with this one. I'm building a car right now that was going to be Chevy powered but I decided to go 351W Ford instead. You can definatly buy more HP for your buck with a Chevy. And for those of you that compare 5 Liter stuff to a 351W there are very few parts that interchange.
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Who siad anything about a "low cube 50's hemi"?

Hemi engines were/are used in the most EXTREME forms of motorsport, and have a race heritage equaled by WHAT?

This thread is about Chevy versus Ford, and a couple of babies have tossed in some insults which don't belong here.

Poncho- are you just a troll too? You post to "ruffle feathers"?
Why not post some UP CLOSE pictures of the cars/trucks you've owned, so we can see where you are coming from? Show us what makes you so dominant?


I don't see a "shorter fuse" from the Chryco guys, I see a couple of jerks tossing around insults trying to cause trouble, and after the crap that has gone on here I think maybe those TRYING to cause trouble should be looked at by Jon next?
I see a couple jerks calling me a big dumb head. I'm going to tell mom!

Settle down Beavis!

Can't you have a normal discussion without getting pissed off?
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Old 01-04-2004, 10:18 PM
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Huh. Huh um. Huh du huh, he said crap. Huh.

Huh um. Ya POOP. Huh.

Cool.
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Old 01-04-2004, 10:27 PM
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Huh. Huh um. Huh du huh, he said crap. Huh.

Huh um. Ya POOP. Huh.

Cool.

You're the only guy I know that can write Beavis.
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Old 01-04-2004, 10:50 PM
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Can't you have a normal discussion without getting pissed off?
How many times does the same troll have to post his insults?
http://www.hotrodders.com/t30641.html

Isn't this a car LOVER's forum?
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maybe we need a car forum for people with a sense of humor, and a forum for people with no sense of humour.... ???

and as far as ford vs. chevy, i realize and acknowledge all of the arguments as to why chevy is superior, but i'm a ford guy. no bowtie for me. thank you.
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Old 01-05-2004, 03:29 AM
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guys you are missing the point, the question was:; which engine is best Chevy or ford.. ?? not ; can anyone name an engine of any kind they happen to like!!

and id say (and i have a mustang with a 302 ford, and a 32 ford hot rod with a 454 BBC) that the best engine on the market today wasn't produced 40 years ago but today, my choice would be a 2nd gen. caddy north-star, with twin turbos and modern electronics, or an aluminum block rodeck big block Chevy engine with dart 14 deg big chief heads and electronic stack fuel injection,

meanwhile back in the real world... id buy the engine that fit my transmission and engine bay
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Chevy 4.000 inch bore and 3.480 inch stroke = 349.8485 CID
Ford 4.000 inch bore and 3.500 inch stroke = 351.8592 CID
With that small of a difference in the stroke I don't see a great
gain in Ford over Chevy.
Give them BOTH a 750 CFM carburetor of choice.
Give them BOTH the Edelbrock RPM AIR GAP intake.
Give them BOTH 9.5 to 1 compression.
Give them BOTH Edelbrock RPM cams Chevy gets 234/244@.05 & .488/.510"
.................................................. .........Ford gets 224/234@.05 & .496/.520"
Give them Both Edelbrock RPM heads Chevy gets 64cc chamber, 170cc/60cc runners, 2.02/1.6 valves, .575" max valve lift & angled plugs.
.................................................. ..........Ford gets 60cc chamber, 170cc/60cc runners, 2.02/1.6cc valves, .575" max valve lift & angled plugs.
Give them BOTH 1-3/4" by 30" headers, and 2-1/4" full length dual exhaust with a crossover just behind the headers.
Give them both a MSD 6AL COMPLETE system.
Run them BOTH on a desktop dyno or similar program, and I would go with the Ford for the power winner in that one as you would be awfully hard pressed to find the EXACT same parts producing the EXACT same results.

I'm still a Chevy guy by label, and would rather try something different when I can.
I am keeping my Malibu as stock as I can for show purposes ONLY.
My 1982 C-10 has the Cadillac 500 in it, because I can.
My 1991 Chevy S-10 is getting the V-8 treatment, BUT with an Oldsmobile diesel converted back to gas, because I can.
My 1985 Chevy Suburban will eventually be getting the Cadillac 500 treatment, but I have to get it back together and do an axle swap first.
If anyone seen my post in the lounge about my recent find I hope to aquire that Nailhead Buick engine thats up there.
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Old 01-05-2004, 11:25 PM
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My 1991 Chevy S-10 is getting the V-8 treatment, BUT with an Oldsmobile diesel converted back to gas, because I can.

Have you ever seen the Oldsmobile diesel engines that have been converted to gas and then stroked. Major bore plus the crank out of a olds 400 or 425, I don't remember exactly, yields 440 cubic inches of pure Oldsmobile small block. OH YEAH!!
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Those blocks are strong(as long as there converted back to gas) we had one for a few year until it blew up.
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