[jimmy1]

Is there a big differance, other than the price in these two paints?I was going to use the chroma base with the nasson 497 clear, But if the "Premier" is that much better, I'll spend the extra 30% for it. thanks Pete

[baddbob]

The ChromaPremiere covers better, they take the same Basemaker reducer.

[jimmy1]

Thanks Bob!! What do you think about using the nasson 497 clear on the Premier. I don't know if its true,but I was told Dupont was having a problem with their clears and some were recalled. Pete

[baddbob]

I've used the Nason clear a few times in the past and never had any problems over Chroma Premier. I haven't heard of any Dupont Clear recalls lately.

[10Tonhammer]

I use dupont pretty much exclusivly. I have had no problems with either nason clear. The chroma Premier will cover better but does the cost outweigh the performance? If you spraying a color that covers well I the spending twice the money on the same color might be questionable. I know that reds can be around 500$ a gallon. I like chroma base its what I use all the time and never had it fail the price is right and it performs well.

Kris,

[10Tonhammer]

Also If i were going to spend the extra for the chroma premier I would use the chroma clear also. If you clear isnt as good as your color then why spend the extra on the color. I would never use nason color as it covers half as well as chroma base. All I'm saying is to keep the scope of the project in mind when buying materials.

Kris,

[jimmy1]

If I'am getting this right you guys are saying its got better coverage on lighter colors? I'am glad I asked,because one of the colors is a silver blue alot like the Pontiac engine blue of the 60's.The second color is/ or I want it to be a darker blue just a little lighter than a navy blue, Both heavy metalics.

[jcclark]

Originally Posted by jimmy1

Is there a big differance, other than the price in these two paints?

The Chromapremier HAS to have activator added to it.
The Chromabase doesn't.
All I use is Chromabase, you can activate it but you don't have to.
I always have paint left over for my small collision repairs so a few
more coats is no big deal and I like being able to save it because
it doesn't have activator mixed in. It saves a long time.

[Bee4Me]

Either way you go,you need your primer color to be what ever Duponts Valueshade calls for,for the best paint coverage. Both Chroma systems are based around the primer's correct shade under it and deviating from this can spell disaster from a coverage/color match stand point. Some of the specality factory colors like prowler Orange,Inferno Red,etc. end up "off" due to to many coats to cover due to the wrong valueshade color under them.
497 is a good "cheap" and I've sprayed gallons over Chroma and some of my older work still looks good.
IMO, It won't have the lustre that the top end Chroma clears will have,Word is that the 497 is the old Chroma 7500 but I tend to disagree as i've shot 7500 and it looks different in the cup as well as more lustre compaired to the 497,however, Nason has a 465 clear that is "supposed' to be the shizzz. It's a 2:1 mix and a fairly high solids. I've not used it or Nason since switching to SPI but I just may try out the 465 for giggles to SEE how it is.

[jimmy1]

Thanks guys, You explained it in a way that even I can understand. Pardon me for my "Flatheadedness",but I'am trying to jump from the Laquer/Staight enanel days to the 21st century all at once. Does the value shade act more like a prime or a sealer? My big worry at this point is film thickness! the body work on this truck sings like the old Johny Cash tune "Ive been everywhere"! I'am not kidding me and the 8 past owners couldn't decide on a method so we used them all,and its to late to go back now. Anyway its straight now and will have a complete coat of Nasson 2k 421-19 sufacer on it as a starting point. JC, Do you think there is a big differance in the flash times between the ChromaBase and the activated Premier, my painting conditions aren't the greatest! Thanks again Pete

[jcclark]

Originally Posted by jimmy1

JC, Do you think there is a big differance in the flash times between the ChromaBase and the activated Premier,

I haven't used the Chromapremier enough to know.
I don't think you'll see a difference, the bases dry pretty fast.
FYI:
I know Chromabase suggests 30 min wait before clearing, and I
always wait 60 min. for safety sake and never had a problem.
I will say the basemaker made just for blends and flop control
is the only one I use now.
(I can't remember the number-it's a slow dry and only sold in gallons
it's over $50.00)
I like that basemaker, I think it makes metallics easier to deal with.
It can also be used in either base.

[Bee4Me]

JC, Are you talking about the 69301S?

Here is Duponts automotive site,most anything you want to know about any of Duponts auto paint systems.
Dupont tech

[jimmy1]

Thanks JC, I think I'll stick with the ChromaBase this time around. I don't know anyone that is using Premier alot, Maby its the price/value gap? I don't know! This will be my first modern bb/cc job and my first with an HLVP gun. I bought a Sharp finex 3oo with the 1.4 because my paint dealer hyped it as a good middle of the road bb/cc gun. But the more I read the threads the less I think of it. A sata or Iwata is out of my price range right now. I don't think I'll have a problem with the base, its the clear with this gun that I'am worried about. I also want that slow basemaker you suggested, I'll probably paint it in pieces over a few days. Thanks Pete

[jimmy1]

Thanks Bee4me! We were writting at the same time. I can use all the info I can get. I wish my dupont dealer knew as much as you guys. He doesn't have any tech sheets to give out. I think its time for a new paint dealer! thanks Pete

[jcclark]

Originally Posted by Bee4Me

JC, Are you talking about the 69301S?

I believe that's the one