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Old 03-30-2006, 10:30 AM
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from ChryslerWeblog.com: why the domestics are hurting

I've been enjoying the Chrysler Weblog. Part inside-info, part hidden hype and cyber-marketing. Their latest piece:

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There seems to be more and more bad news coming out of Detroit every day. GM and Ford are having a hard time convincing Wall Street their turnaround plans will make a difference. It seems GM and Ford have announced a restructuring/turnaround/”we are a new company” plan every couple of years since the late 90s. None of their turnaround plans have been as dramatic as Chrysler’s post merger restructuring where they walked out over 25000 over three years.

There are several reasons why the domestics are having a hard time. High labor costs, currency imbalance, needless lawsuits, legacy costs…the list goes on and on. But there should be no reason why GM, Ford and Chrysler can’t to compete with the Asian automakers.
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Old 03-30-2006, 10:41 AM
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In the other side of our Business that I work at, we are a GM/Jeep Dealer-at the GM meetings we attend, GM tells us that the Media slant is towards the Asian cars-I had never noticed it until it was mentioned-but pay attention-how often do you see in a test of say, 10 cars or trucks that an American Company get kudos? I don't think we have seen the last of the news from Detroit yet-

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Old 03-30-2006, 10:56 AM
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Chevrolet have finaly started dealerships up over here in Spain and I see more of them everyday.Spain only has one home grown car company so they don´t seem biased at all, French cars sell well here.
Now how would it pan out if I went in and asked for something for a twenty year old Camaro
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Yep And Down They Will Gone...

3-3-06

Since 1979 GMC Went Cheap 350 Chevy Engines In All Cars/Trucks-Dumped Oldsmobile Best Car Ever Made---Went Plastic--Then Pulled Wing Windows, Door Frames,Bumpers & All Frames From Under Cars--GMC 1st To Go It All Others Includes Foreign Cars Followed Suite...They Saved $Billion$ Doing It And Still Gone To Hell..

Modern Day $50,000 Beer Cans On Wheels (You Don't Have To Buy Funeral Casket) Death Traps To Your Graves!

Well People-Here's Air Bags In Your Face...


Etal: DODGEChrysler) Dumped Best Vans Ever Made In 2003--Look At Foreign (Version) Piece Of Junk They Now Call Van--Looks Like Wedge For Dam--Maybe They'll Sell It In France?

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Old 04-01-2006, 09:32 AM
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3-3-06

Since 1979 GMC Went Cheap 350 Chevy Engines In All Cars/Trucks-Dumped Oldsmobile Best Car Ever Made---Went Plastic--Then Pulled Wing Windows, Door Frames,Bumpers & All Frames From Under Cars--GMC 1st To Go It All Others Includes Foreign Cars Followed Suite...They Saved $Billion$ Doing It And Still Gone To Hell..

Modern Day $50,000 Beer Cans On Wheels (You Don't Have To Buy Funeral Casket) Death Traps To Your Graves!

Well People-Here's Air Bags In Your Face...


Etal: DODGEChrysler) Dumped Best Vans Ever Made In 2003--Look At Foreign (Version) Piece Of Junk They Now Call Van--Looks Like Wedge For Dam--Maybe They'll Sell It In France?

Vincent Auto
I met some of the Dodge van plant guys. They went out of business cuz they couldn't sell enough to justify keeping the plant open -- Ford sold 250K a year, GM about 150K, Dodge about 75K.... the full size van market isn't big enough for all 3 anymore.
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why the domestics are hurting

First to Malc.
The Chevrolet cars on sale in Spain and the rest of Europe are not Chevy's they are Daewoo cars.

The design of American cars has been crap since the seventies, there is nothing there which would make me put my hand in my pocket.

There are several factors which distort the market, and labour costs is not one of them, the Imports build quite happily in your country.

The big three build cars for their biggest customers, the Big three sell 3 out of every 4 Fleet cars. To businesses, Government Agencies and Daily Car Hire. when there is slack in the production line, they dump even more into these markets at way below value. After 6 months or a year, these cars are then dumped on the secondhand market, depressing values and losing half their value in only one year.

The ordinary customer sees this and quite rightly thinks "I'm not going to buy something which will lose half its value in one year."

Toyota sales to Fleet users stands at 6%. of output.

No car hire place will hand you the keys to a BM or Merc, unless you pay through the nose for the privledge.

The big three spend nothing on design or innovation, they are the McDonalds of the car industry.
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Old 04-02-2006, 03:53 AM
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The reason is that the domestic car makers dont have anything new, exciting, or original to offer to the 'average joe' My gf's parents are looking for a pair of new vehicles and asked me to help, after going around with them and checking out what everyone had to offer for a mid size family sedan the domestic cars are dry boring cheap and overpriced for what you get. Buy a foreign car and you get better mileage, better warranty, lower price, more options and better fit and finish, there really isnt much comparison, its very disappointing.
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Mosstrooper, it's not often I agree with EVERYTHING you say, but this is one of them. Well said, I especially like the Mcdonalds comparison. Resale and longevity are the 2 biggest factors when I buy a new vehicle, styling flew out the window years ago, anything that looks good anymore is beyond my funding capabilities. Remember the excitement when the big 3 used to unveil the new year models every fall, comparing them and wondering which will sell more? Dan
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why the domestics are hurting

American cars become Classics after 5 years --------- Apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-CHRYSLER-...QQcmdZViewItem
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