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Old 01-31-2014, 03:17 PM
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Clearance Tube welded through frame for steering?

Hoping someone with experience setting up custom suspensions can help.
I'm looking at using a 04-09 Durango r&p is rear steer r&p with 6.9" travel.
The steer column attach point is centered 13.5" from the center at an outward angle.
My 37 buick has a frame that is 20" inside and 26" outside.
Shifting the r&p to one side may help, but may also cause interferance with the wheel.
Has anyone ever welded in a clearance tube through frame to attach steering column to a rack and pinion?
This would be similar to notches I've seen for tie rod clearance.
this is a big boxed frame, but I could add some additional reinforcement if it looks weak.
Any pictures of this appoach would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:29 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with adding a tube through the frame.. As long as your adding something back it shouldn't be a problem at all..
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It all depends...
  1. what's the diameter of the tube are you planning to put through the frame?
  2. is the tube centered in the frame?
  3. what is the wall thickness of the tube?
  4. what is the thickness of the frame?
  5. what are the dimensions of the frame?
You get me the data and I'd be glad to run the numbers for ya.... something like this: http://talk.classicparts.com/showthr...964#post96964/
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It all depends...
  1. what's the diameter of the tube are you planning to put through the frame?
  2. is the tube centered in the frame?
  3. what is the wall thickness of the tube?
  4. what is the thickness of the frame?
  5. what are the dimensions of the frame?
You get me the data and I'd be glad to run the numbers for ya.... something like this: Frame Notch Based On Strength - Classic Parts Talk
Thanks very much for the shortcut to that thread.
Nice write up, that's exactly what I was looking for.
I have the frame and r&p assy built in SoilidWorks. Just need to cut the notch and add in a pipe. I can do FEA, too, but would greatly appreciate your help on this.
By the way, where do you live in Colorado? I live in Westminster.
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Very nice writeup lakeroadster. I'm bookmarking that one.
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Very nice writeup lakeroadster. I'm bookmarking that one.
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Look's like we all need to get a mechanical engineer degree before ever posting here at Hotrodders.com...UNBEIEVABLE !!!!!
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Look's like we all need to get a mechanical engineer degree before ever posting here at Hotrodders.com...UNBEIEVABLE !!!!!
While I did initially laugh at your post, I had second thoughts after a minute or two. You see, guys like you and me, who have "been there, done that" many times, already have it in our minds the type and thickness of materials that will be required to do a certain task. This is not true with fellows who are doing this for the first time. They don't have the experience that you and I do, so I understand the need for guidance in order to build a safe ride.
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While I did initially laugh at your post, I had second thoughts after a minute or two. You see, guys like you and me, who have "been there, done that" many times, already have it in our minds the type and thickness of materials that will be required to do a certain task. This is not true with fellows who are doing this for the first time. They don't have the experience that you and I do, so I understand the need for guidance in order to build a safe ride.

Thanks for understanding. I appreciate all the help I have received on this and other car building sites. Without these sites, restoring my Grandparents 37 Buick would be 100 times more difficult. My Uncle was the car expert in our family and unfortunately he passed away 10 years before I started this project. The car builders cummunity is, hands down, one of the most helpful, and generous group of individuals I have ran into. Thanks to all of you who have helped me, and other newbies. Hoping I can return the favor at some point in the future.
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