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Old 01-17-2011, 09:45 PM
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Coil spring "extenders", "spacers", etc.

Hi guys, I was wondering if any one has experience using any of those various name products that suppose to lift up your front-end around 2"? I have a heavy 460 in my '78 Fairmont with a C6 with '88 Mustang LX 5.0 springs. Thanks.

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Why not buy longer springs in the right rates? the price is very close to those things from what I've seen in local parts houses.
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Prices I've seen are about $6.00 to $20.00 for spacers or whatever they like to call them and $74.00 to $150 or so for springs. Also, if I get enough money, I may sell the 460/C6 and put in a 351; though I would like to see how it looks and if the raised front end actually lowers my et. Also, no idea what spring rates would be enough if I did get them eventually.
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Prices I've seen are about $6.00 to $20.00 for spacers or whatever they like to call them and $74.00 to $150 or so for springs. Also, if I get enough money, I may sell the 460/C6 and put in a 351; though I would like to see how it looks and if the raised front end actually lowers my et. Also, no idea what spring rates would be enough if I did get them eventually.
Spacers will work i'm not real fond of them but have used them before.
But springs would be the way to go if you want the best ride out of it .JMO
Do you drive this car everyday or just drag car only ?


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Sticks

Seems to be a correlation between distance to city and spring spacer use.
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I don't see that raising the front end will help the ET. Most cars need as much front suspension travel as possible to enhance weight transfer and to prevent the front suspension from topping out too soon at the launch, before the car has firmly planted the rear tire. If you raise the front it will top out sooner and pull the weight back off the rear tires. This is why you see most drag cars so low on the front.
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I don't see that raising the front end will help the ET. Most cars need as much front suspension travel as possible to enhance weight transfer and to prevent the front suspension from topping out too soon at the launch, before the car has firmly planted the rear tire. If you raise the front it will top out sooner and pull the weight back off the rear tires. This is why you see most drag cars so low on the front.
Dang i missed the "ET" part.


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Spacers will work i'm not real fond of them but have used them before.
But springs would be the way to go if you want the best ride out of it .JMO
Do you drive this car everyday or just drag car only ?


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Neither, actually. I drive it mostly on streets and some highways in the good weather from late April/early May until late November/early December. I take it to the drag a couple of times a year. Do the spacers make it ride a little firmer or alot firmer, or somewhere in between?
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Neither, actually. I drive it mostly on streets and some highways in the good weather from late April/early May until late November/early December. I take it to the drag a couple of times a year. Do the spacers make it ride a little firmer or alot firmer, or somewhere in between?
I have driven a 5.0 sbf F150 w/ spring spacers in the front and it seemed to ride and handle like OEM. But, I'm not exactly the princess on the pea.
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A spacer won't change ride quality at all, all it does is raise the front of the car, the spring rate is still the same.
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A spacer won't change ride quality at all, all it does is raise the front of the car, the spring rate is still the same.
Ok, thanks.
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I don't see that raising the front end will help the ET. Most cars need as much front suspension travel as possible to enhance weight transfer and to prevent the front suspension from topping out too soon at the launch, before the car has firmly planted the rear tire. If you raise the front it will top out sooner and pull the weight back off the rear tires. This is why you see most drag cars so low on the front.
Hmm, the plot thickens! Do you think raising the front 2" will give better traction when flooring it on the street?
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Hmm, the plot thickens! Do you think raising the front 2" will give better traction when flooring it on the street?
Nope, ...there is a reason no one build a nose high car(like the 60's gassers) anymore, they learned they were thinking about weight transfer the wrong way. All raising the nose does is take potential weight transfer away. Transfer only happens while the front end is rising, once it tops out transfer stops. If you start with the nose higher it is going to top out sooner limiting the amount of time transfer is helping to plant the tires.

What does your rear suspension consist of??
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A spacer won't change ride quality at all, all it does is raise the front of the car, the spring rate is still the same.
I have them in my camaro and they seem to do ok. But how does it keep the same spring rate with a more or less a block in between the springs spreading the spring out to lift it ?



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