Coilover shock spring length - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Suspension - Brakes - Steering
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2014, 10:29 AM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Coilover shock spring length

I just received my new QA1 coilover shocks and springs for the back of my old Austin gasser. Ordered them from Speedway, and the QA1 requirements said a 2.5"x8" spring, so that's what I ordered. The box is marked as 8", but the measured length is 10". So this brings up my question. Is this correct that a 8" spring would be 10" long? And if this is true, then the only way to get these assembled will be to back all the adjustment out, and then compress them to assemble. QA1 instructions don't mention compressing the springs, and details say to assemble the springs, and then turn the adjuster nuts up 1/3 of the threads for preload.
Either I'm missing something, or these springs are incorrectly boxed?

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2014, 11:14 AM
evolvo's Avatar
Heathen
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Port Hadlock, Wa
Posts: 546
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 35
Thanked 46 Times in 44 Posts
8" springs should be 8" long. Call supplier and confirm.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2014, 12:13 PM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Thanks. I have to wait for Monday, as by the time I got them yesterday afternoon it was too late to call. I sure was anxious to assemble and install them, but don't want to do so until I contact them. Hope I don't have to wait for more return/exchange time, but might have to.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2014, 12:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: illinois
Posts: 375
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts
They may go by "installed height" but I can't confirm or deny that [do I sound like a politician ???]
dave
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2014, 02:55 PM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2old2fast View Post
They may go by "installed height" but I can't confirm or deny that [do I sound like a politician ???]
dave
That was my question to myself, but the spec says, "free length", so I would guess free means uninstalled.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 09:41 AM
S10xGN's Avatar
Gotta love a turbo!
 

Last journal entry: Body on Frame today.
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Port Neches, TX
Age: 61
Posts: 1,666
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 62 Times in 58 Posts
The correct spring should be a tight fit when hand assembling. You really have to press a bit to get the threads on the lower spring seat started. If you're 2" off, you'll know it for sure...

Russ
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 12:38 PM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by S10xGN View Post
The correct spring should be a tight fit when hand assembling. You really have to press a bit to get the threads on the lower spring seat started. If you're 2" off, you'll know it for sure...

Russ
Yeah, measuring the distance between spring retainer and threaded adjusters, I get just over 8", so a 8" spring would drop over, and slightly compress to get the retainer collar on with threaded adjuster backed off. No way I'd get these on without my coil spring compressor.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:14 PM
NEW INTERIORS's Avatar
Believe in yourself !!!!!!
 

Last journal entry: 41 WILLYS FRAME
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In My Shop..
Age: 49
Posts: 10,121
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,294
Thanked 575 Times in 423 Posts
the last five or more set's of QA1's wasn't tight at all to put the springs on the shock's.. I use 14'' on every car..I can go check the lenghts on the springs if you want me too..

Now the cheaper ones speedway sell's are thight to install.. I quite useing them..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:20 PM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS View Post
the last five or more set's of QA1's wasn't tight at all to put the springs on the shock's.. I use 14'' on every car..I can go check the lenghts on the springs if you want me too..

Now the cheaper ones speedway sell's are thight to install.. I quite useing them..
That describes what the instructions say. No mention of having to even slightly compress the springs to install them on the shocks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:31 PM
NEW INTERIORS's Avatar
Believe in yourself !!!!!!
 

Last journal entry: 41 WILLYS FRAME
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In My Shop..
Age: 49
Posts: 10,121
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,294
Thanked 575 Times in 423 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1971BB427 View Post
That describes what the instructions say. No mention of having to even slightly compress the springs to install them on the shocks.
The ones I been useing doesn't need compressing to install at all.. I'm going to take one apart to check the lenght.. I'll be back with that in five Mins..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 01:38 PM
NEW INTERIORS's Avatar
Believe in yourself !!!!!!
 

Last journal entry: 41 WILLYS FRAME
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In My Shop..
Age: 49
Posts: 10,121
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,294
Thanked 575 Times in 423 Posts
This is the 14'' at ride height from speedway,, It has a 12'' spring and this is the room it has before thighting up the nuts..(the nut's are all the way down)




Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00417.JPG
Views:	1890
Size:	53.1 KB
ID:	114089  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-19-2014, 02:07 PM
lakeroadster's Avatar
Hot Rods are Built, not Bought
 

Last journal entry: Lakeroadster's '31 Model A Tudor
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: High Plains - Rocky Mountains
Age: 53
Posts: 651
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 31
Thanked 89 Times in 81 Posts
Free Height vs. Installed Height:

http://www.moogproblemsolver.com/moo...rings_Spec.pdf
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 01-20-2014, 08:48 AM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Thanks for the help guys!
Just got off the phone with Speedway. They were great, and went the extra distance to make things right. Even though these were closeout garage sale springs that said no returns, they not only are taking them back, but are replacing them with a more expensive spring for the same price. Sending the new coils out today, and I'll send these back when they email the RTA slip for UPS.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The Following User Says Thank You to 1971BB427 For This Useful Post:
NEW INTERIORS (01-21-2014)
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2014, 09:07 AM
NEW INTERIORS's Avatar
Believe in yourself !!!!!!
 

Last journal entry: 41 WILLYS FRAME
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: In My Shop..
Age: 49
Posts: 10,121
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,294
Thanked 575 Times in 423 Posts
Speedway is very good to you when it come's to them kind of things..Great bunch of guy's over there..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2014, 09:12 AM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,751
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 14
Thanked 285 Times in 248 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS View Post
Speedway is very good to you when it come's to them kind of things..Great bunch of guy's over there..
I was a little concerned, since it said "No Returns on garage sale items", but the fact they were mismarked I hoped would change that. They were great, and very accommodating to make it right. Glad I checked all the optional springs before contacting them though, as they first said they had nothing in stock. Once I gave part numbers for 2-3 other 8" springs they just looked until they found one in stock and said they'd upgrade to it free.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Suspension - Brakes - Steering posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coilover vs coil spring front end 57fordft Suspension - Brakes - Steering 1 05-07-2009 09:12 AM
coilover vs. standard spring Rufus_2 Suspension - Brakes - Steering 12 02-09-2007 04:18 AM
Coilover shock adjustment mackster Introduce Yourself 1 07-03-2006 10:03 AM
shock mounts out of alignment and shock length? pcoghlan Suspension - Brakes - Steering 4 05-08-2006 06:22 AM
Incorret Coilover Spring Rate? GLN305 Suspension - Brakes - Steering 5 10-09-2003 02:50 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.