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Old 07-19-2006, 08:33 PM
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Muscle Cars from my personal collection, though they are no longer mine...

1968 Chevy Biscayne 427/425hp, 4 Speed, 4.10 12 bolt posi and power nothing. Yes it had solids and it was my daily driver, in fact my only car. With 307 tags on the fender I had a lot of fun with that car.

Followed on a few years later by a 1967 Chevelle SuperSport, also with 427/425, 4 speed and 4.56 posi. Also power nothing. Though not pure factory. Very few could run with it.

That's what I think of when I remember muscle cars.

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Old 07-19-2006, 08:35 PM
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This whole discussion would be more fun with all of us elder citizens over 50(+/-) were sitting in a pub with a cold one or 2 (with or w/o fermented ingredients) in front of us. Then ALL of the worlds problems would be solved, including muscle cars, Iraq, Tri 5's, immigration, Israel, why Jr isn't like his dad, and so on.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:14 PM
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Yer' on. I'll have a whisky, it makes me sure about my opinions, no matter how wrong they are to others.

If muscle equals torque, then BB's are muscular.
If big muscles are called pipes, then big pipes are called muscle.
BB's have big pipes.
Musclecars are BB's.

List away... SB's and Strokers are fast, just not muscular.
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[QUOTE=KULTULZ]
How many multi-carb solid lifter monsters were actually released? And if they were, it was only to qualify them for the SUPER STOCK wars of the period.
What I am referring to is a turn-key showroom car that will run and not present itself as a high maintenance Saturday morning nightmare.
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You got me there, you're clearly more hip to the Ford scene then I am. I really don't know exactly what the numbers are but if the ones that were so equipped, are disqualified from being muscle cars simply for that reason alone, there's no justice.
Back in 57, Chevrolet introduced a solid lifter dual-quad 283 package that went mainly into the Belair hardtops. I've really never considered those to be much of a muscle car, so I guess i've got no complaint with your theory.

You seem real knowledgeable, maybe you can fill me in on THIS one too.. I'm still tryin' to figure out just what the hell it is that I've got... The 53's too young to be a street rod, not tri-five enough to be a classic, and not period correct enough to be a hotrod. I'm in limbo Man, help me out here...

Gawd! I hate lables...
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:33 PM
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this was mt first car but it was a 500 not an r/t i'll never forget that car.
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This whole discussion would be more fun with all of us elder citizens over 50(+/-) were sitting in a pub with a cold one or 2 (with or w/o fermented ingredients) in front of us. Then ALL of the worlds problems would be solved, including muscle cars, Iraq, Tri 5's, immigration, Israel, why Jr isn't like his dad, and so on.
I want it to be fully known here that I only take Elderberry wine (on occasion) for purely medical reasons and/or social gatherings...

Also let it be known that the BUDWEISER has flowed freely on race car bull**** sessions...

I will drink the wine before it's time...

Oh...BTW... The only correct use of a CHEV TRI-5 is to hold a 409 up...
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The only correct use of a CHEV TRI-5 is to hold a 409 up...
While the front is doing that.......



The back can be a good place to set a spell while we taste that elderberry wine.
It doesn't taste like ripple, does it?

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Old 07-20-2006, 12:07 AM
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...my buddy had one of those 61 poncho catalinas tri carbed, aluminum front end & wheels, 4 speed with a swiss cheesed frame ,bubble top machines..that thing looked like a BIG car but was actualy light n screamed TORQUE

to this day he always says"im a DUMMY for gettin rid of that car in 81"..i couldnt agree more....
That was a whole lot of automobile. But here is the secret. CHEV, FORD and MOPAR all had similiar machinery to allow you to go race with or more specifically the big names to go with. When the GOAT hit the street, everything changed overnight. ANYBODY could be Don Nicholson.
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:24 AM
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A buddy of mine has a 66 Cyclone convertible, factory 390 4-speed car sitting in his garage.

...he's got a 427 side-oiler to shoe horn into the Cyclone.

Can't wait to let him know, once he puts that dual-quad boat anchor in there, it won't be a muscle car anymore. His devistated expression should be priceless.
The 66/67 FAIRLANE/COMET was (were) available (SPO) with either a 427/410 (4V) or a 427/425 (8V). One cannot consider these to be MUSCLECARS as it was not a readily available consumer product as say a 427/425HP CHEVELLE.

And if the numbers don't match, it's a WRECKS TO RICHES conversion.

I was poor during this period and a whole lot of performance offerings from FORD just plain sucked. If I built a 56 FORD 406 3X2 for the street, would it be considered a MUSCLECAR or a HOTROD?

Most everything then was based upon a car's legality according to then NHRA rules, it either being STOCK, SUPER STOCK or MODIFIED PRODUCTION.

We must not confuse actual factory MUSCLECARS vs HOT RODS/SLEEPERS/FACTORY RACE.

BTW- I would not refer to the FORD 427 as a boat anchor. This engine series won FORD a whole lot of money. And there is a big difference between what was released for the street as compared as to what was pure race. The street 427 is docile and still a THUMPER...
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The back can be a good place to set a spell while we taste that elderberry wine.
I like that. I won't have to fear spilling...

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It doesn't taste like ripple, does it?
It depends. If I mix it with CANADIAN CLUB, I call it CRIPPLE...
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:30 AM
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...maybe you can fill me in on THIS one too.. I'm still tryin' to figure out just what the hell it is that I've got...

The 53's too young to be a street rod, not tri-five enough to be a classic, and not period correct enough to be a hotrod. I'm in limbo Man, help me out here...
I think they were referred to as STOVEBOLTS...
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:09 AM
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Mikey - throw me an MGD and pull your chair out of reverse.. - those backup lights are blindin' me!

Stovebolt, Smovebolt...

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Throw me an MGD and pull your chair out of reverse.. - those backup lights are blindin' me!
I didn't use the pic of that 57 couch that I found on the corbin website because it was a GIF and all the lights flashed.

I didn't want to give anyone a seizure.

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Old 07-20-2006, 09:29 AM
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[QUOTE=KULTULZ]The 66/67 FAIRLANE/COMET was (were) available (SPO) with either a 427/410 (4V) or a 427/425 (8V). One cannot consider these to be MUSCLECARS as it was not a readily available consumer product as say a 427/425HP CHEVELLE.

And if the numbers don't match, it's a WRECKS TO RICHES conversion.

I was poor during this period and a whole lot of performance offerings from FORD just plain sucked. If I built a 56 FORD 406 3X2 for the street, would it be considered a MUSCLECAR or a HOTROD?

Most everything then was based upon a car's legality according to then NHRA rules, it either being STOCK, SUPER STOCK or MODIFIED PRODUCTION.

We must not confuse actual factory MUSCLECARS vs HOT RODS/SLEEPERS/FACTORY RACE.

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You answered your own question. A stock looking 56 Ford with a 406 might be a 50's Hotrod but I do believe 'Sleeper's' a more appropriate lable. I'd like to think that just might be what I've got too - I've blown the doors off a few unsuspecting, so-called hotrods with it.
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