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Old 02-04-2006, 10:15 PM
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Complete car painting kit???

So I received the new issue ol skool rodz and in it I found an advertisement for a place called smart shopper-www.smartshoppersinc.com. They have a complete start to finish paint kit that comes with everything from 1 of 42 colors to a spray suit for about $160 + shipping. Has anybody seen this and if so, would it even be worth the while. I'm really interested to hear what your responses will be. Kevin

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Here is a picture of a Nissan Altima Hood I recently painted using Kirker Perfect Prime, Martin Senour TEC BASE color and Kirker Miraclear.

Bottom line with the kirker is that it can work out just fine if applied correctly. Not every project needs a high end paint job. This car is a 200,000 + mile car used to commute over an hour one way to a mill. Hood had peeling paint. With that being said there are some products that may be easier to apply. But for the money all in all it ain't a bad kit if your on a budget. I personally don't like spraying a SSU color in my shop because it stains the floor so bad. I prefer a true base/clear system. The kirker is SSU (color that could actually go uncleared) with a clear added to the top.
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Old 02-04-2006, 11:44 PM
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re: Complete car painting kit???

The pics of the car look great. Ive been reading alot of good things about kirker products from this site. I'm pretty new to painting, I painted my 84 el camino and a friends 80 malibu. I am just wondering if the kit advertised for $160 sounds decent enough to paint my impala or should I look for something else. I like the idea that they take most of the guess work out of purchasing all the different reducers and hardeners . I also was volunteered to paint my buddy's 94 (something foreign) station wagon so I thought this would be a good kit as he doesn't want to spend alot of dough.

Let me know what ya think. Thanks

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Its your money and your call. On the Station Wagon I say it makes sense. On the impala I say if your happy with the way the wagon turns out you can make a descision then.

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more of the same....

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Old 02-06-2006, 11:34 PM
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re: Complete car painting kit???

Looking good.
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Check this out for NEW Kirker Products:

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COMPLETE URETHANE CANDY PAINT JOB

$300.00 plus $35.00 s&h

ALL COLOR'S SAME PRICE

Here Is Whats included:
1 Gal. of Primer / Sealer (your choice of buff or grey)
1 Qt. of Activator for the primer
4 Qts of Quick Silver Base
4 Qts of Urethane Candy (your choice of color seen below, you can even mix and match)
1 Gal. of Vision Clear
3 Qts of Activator for use in the Base , Candy, & Clear
2 Qts of Reducer for use in the Primer, Base, Color or Clear
15 Paint sticks & Paint strainers
1 Spray suit and Spray sock
3 Qt. Mixing cups
6 Tack Rags
3 Rolls masking tape

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4609191871
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Kirker Paint Company
Every day, automotive painters from coast to coast discover how to cut costs without sacrificing quality they make the switch to Kirker Automotive Finishes. For more than 100 years, our top priority has been to provide value to our customers. We do that by manufacturing high quality automotive and fleet refinish materials, then make them available at a fraction of the cost of similar items from bigger national brands.
http://www.kirkerautomotive.com/
The TECH SHEETS for the New KIRKER QUICK SILVER BASE COAT and New KIRKER CANDY COLORS.
http://www.kirkerautomotive.com/imag...ch_spectra.pdf
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Almost forgot if going to bare metal and back up then you will need an epoxy for the primer and it just so happens that KIRKER makes a recommended primer in that type.

My next venture "outside" of OMNI MP170 - love the stuff but am always
looking to try something else will be the KIRKER EPOXY in the new BLACK.

$69.50 + 7.50 shipping for 2 sprayable gallons and extras.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4609193742

I have never read anything but praise for the KIRKER EPOXY PRIMER.
It will be my next purchase "IF" mail ordering epoxy primer on the net.
The price is very hard to beat for 2 sprayable gallons!

Again if going from bare metal with the kits above then suggest this EPOXY for a Complete KIRKER SYSTEM from bare metal up. Then follow up with the components in the Kirker kits.
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re: Complete car painting kit???

Cool, I had no idea the epoxy kits cost that little and on ebay none the less, but than again a few years back you could buy kidneys on there so anything is possible. Thank you for all the info, you guys are on the ball.

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re: Complete car painting kit???

Also, is it possible to clear over epoxy primer? I'm painting the body black primer and the roof/dash/rims a flame red color. Is it possible to get away with epoxy primering the whole car in black then masking off the body to paint the roof red and than going with a 3 coat clear? My other question is after I finish block sanding and make any other small repairs with filler, will it show through the epoxy primer? Thanks for all the help.--Kevin
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I wish someone on here could show us a car painted with one of these
low cost kits where the paint is at least 3 years old.
It may be fine and look great, but what about 3 years from now?
Will these same people be around saying how high of quality it is?
I had a cheapo paint job look "show car perfect" for 3 yrs then
went bad and I had to repaint everything.
These low cost kits may be great and hold up but remember,
just because it looks great after buffing like these people show,
it is no way an indicator of quality, it's how long it lasts.
And only time will tell.
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Almost forgot if a person uses these products then please make sure you can and do follow the written directions from the Paint Manufacturer. Just so you do not embarrass yourself in front of thousands of people when the TRUTH finally COMES OUT that you WERE A HOME CHEMIST when it came to a FAILED PAINT JOB.

What would happen if a person used SPI epoxy's catalyst in OMNI Epoxy and it failed? Would it be the fault of SPI and should SPI be held acountable due to the HOME CHEMIST with a FAILED JOB that resulted from NOT FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS?
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Just my opinion

For what it is worth, the valueline paints are good when doing a used car for sale or if you are doing the inexpensive job for some one who just wants it pretty. If one is doing a keeper or wants the good job then use a better line of paint..the paint expense is really not all that much compared to the labor of doing all the prep and such to get a good job..

As far as clearing over primer sometimes we will do that on chassis parts or something but if one wants a nice job the small expense to buy a can of base is not all that big a deal to me..

Frankly I have learned the hard way about using cheap stuff and won't go there if I can help it..

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I would be a little leery of buying paint products from someone that you do not know, on E-bay. That real great deal may just be old paint that they could not dump on someone else. Keep in mind the amount of work involved in getting that car or truck ready to paint. If there is a problem with the paint, and you have to redo it, not only are you out the cost of the paint, but you have alot of headaches ahead of you.

If I am going thru the work and expense of painting a vehicle that I will have to live with, I'm going to spend the money to get quality materials that will last. If you are planning on seeing the car go down the road and not worry about the paint, then you might be able to get by with it. Then again, maybe not.

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I would be a little leery of buying paint products from someone that you do not know, on E-bay. That real great deal may just be old paint that they could not dump on someone else. Keep in mind the amount of work involved in getting that car or truck ready to paint. If there is a problem with the paint, and you have to redo it, not only are you out the cost of the paint, but you have alot of headaches ahead of you.

If I am going thru the work and expense of painting a vehicle that I will have to live with, I'm going to spend the money to get quality materials that will last. If you are planning on seeing the car go down the road and not worry about the paint, then you might be able to get by with it. Then again, maybe not.

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Exactly! The LAST place I would buy auto paint would be E-bay. Who knows what kind of crap you'd be getting.
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