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Old 01-13-2009, 07:21 AM
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Console Design - AD Truck

I am developing a console for my 54 Chevy truck and have some questions in regards to speaker selection and placement to anyone who has installed a sound system in an Advance Design cab.

I have included pics of the prototype console design I tossed together to size it up and work the placement of the components. The top will have two round AC vents (vintage air more than likely), under which will be the stereo head unit (Pioneer DEH-P4000UB), then the HVAC control panel. The plastic drink holders will be changed to stainless versions. The final console construction may be either stained or upholstered wood. I am also considering bending up a frame and using sheet metal which would be painted. The metal version would give me the ability to incorporate removable side panels for access.

My question though is in regard to speaker size and placement. I am currently planning to use 4" Infinity 4022i (2 way) units mount in the console sides as high up as possible to clear feet and the head unit depth. My concern is whether I will get a muffled sound with the speakers in this location. The AD cabs are not very big so I am believing it should be fine. The console itself will provide some level of resonance (depth). I will not be using any sub-woofers/amplifiers or any of that nonsense. I do not want to vibrate the paint off or blow the glass out.

Another option is to use a pair of Infinity 2-way 5.25" speakers in the console but things start getting tighter. I may get better sound from them but not appreciably is what I am thinking. I could also mount a pair of 3.5" speakers (Infinity 3022i) behind the dash grill. This would provide a bit more separation maybe.

I would like to hear from others who have installed systems in their trucks regarding components and placement suggestions. I am not wanting to cut the dash or the side panels for component mounting.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:33 AM
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Because of the wooden console cabinet, I would make sure to put speaker baffles over the back of the speakers in the console so the echo would be reduced. CLICK HERE I like your console, how do you plan to finish it?
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:02 AM
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Using those baffles might permit me to locate the speakers lower on the console. The reason I was going high was to keep them away from any spilled beverages. Will have to look at that closer.

The finish is undetermined as this time as the final construction method has not been settled as noted initially.

I do not want to carpet the sides and it may be too much "wood" for me if stained. I could use a grey stain to somewhat match the paint. The metal verson though holds some attraction to me since I can see the final product better in my head. It would take more fab time and cost though.

The speaker size and location are the primary points I need to nail down at this time though.
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Your truck looks like a 40ish truck. FWIW IMHO a squared off console looks totally out of place on these trucks. The dash has smooth rounded features and the console has squared off corners. Keep your basic design, but round off the corners and right angles. Cover it with packaging tape, fiberglass it, pop it out, smooth it all out with filler then paint it the same color as your dash so it will look like it belongs in the truck. Something like the below picture of my 34.


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While I suspect you have all the good intentions, I would seriously reconsider the consul pictured. It appears to be very restrictive, and very close to the accelerator pedal.. Also, never make anything near the dash area with sharp corners like the ones you have. They are not safe, and make everyone very uncomfortable and try as you might, you will constantly get cut, bruised and nick by them.
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I appreciate the comments but the key word I used was "prototype". The unit shown is a mock up to set the general dimensions and component layout. It is also sized to ensure plenty of pedal access although the pic does make it appear closer than it is. It was set so I would have clearance while wearing my hunting boots.

As for using this as a buck for a fiberglass version that is something I had not considered but would rather have wood substructure covered in leather instead. I am currently leaning in that direction. Of course the right angle corners will all be rounded but the need to incorporate rounded features is not necessary and complicates the construction. Whatever ulphostery I do use will also soften the hard edges shown.

Can anyone provide advice on the speaker sizes and locations I mentioned in the initial post?
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I agree with the separation of your speakers. You'll get much better sound if you keep to the sides of the cab instead of the center. I took the gas tank out from behind the seat of my 66 C10 and fabricated a wood frame to hold my 12" speakers. I also agree with 302 with the fiberglassing, but I'm going with cloth and bondo for the cover because bondo is easier to shape and the wood is the support for it. As for speaker choice I would think that you should use what fits best to your application. Me I'm going with 12" subs in the back, 5 x 7" under the dash and a small tweeter in the overhead dash. This sould give it a nice surround sound. My 2 cents.

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