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Can someone recommend a really strong contact adhesive? Seems everything I try holds ok right after assembly but tends to let loose in a short time if it has tension on the parts. Up until recently I had really good luck with a clear contact adhesive that I found at Wal-Mart of all places, the best I have used, but they don't carry it anymore.

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Strong Glue

Go back to Wal-Mart to the paint section and look for Gorilla Glue adhesive,I have heard good things about it, maybe buy the small size to try it out on your application and if it works you know where the large size is.
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While Gorilla Glue is great for a lot of things, it is not contact adhesive that you would use in automotive interior applications.
If you want it to hold forever, you'll need to stop using aerosols and start using spray grade adhesives. Yes, you'll have to use an air compressor and a spray gun, but you can get one at Harbor Freight for $16 or $17. Their model number is 43760. It's an HVLP gun that comes with a 1.8MM nozzle. You need at least 1.8 and sometimes 2.0 to 2.2 MM nozzles to spray contact adhesive. You need an HHR (high heat resistant) contact adhesive made for car interiors like DAP Weldwood Top and Trim Adhesive, or 3-M's Top and Trim Adhesive. CLICK HERE I use the DAP product because it is a lot cheaper than 3-M.
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You need an HHR (high heat resistant) contact adhesive made for car interiors like DAP Weldwood Top and Trim Adhesive, or 3-M's Top and Trim Adhesive. CLICK HERE I use the DAP product because it is a lot cheaper than 3-M.

I'm with Mr Dan on this one...This is some very good stuff. And good people to deal with..http://www.yourautotrim.com/noname37.html
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Gorrilla glue expands and tends to bubble and foam a bit as it dries. A good Contact glue is solvent based and shrinks slightly and holds the two adhered surfaces closer togethor as it dries.

I have a engineer who has experimented with Gorrilla glue and says that our companies HV-350 is stronger and easier to work with than their product. We are also a Cincinnati based company and unfortunately we dont advertise because we are owned by a industrial company that doesnt think advertising works.

HV-350 is a Solvent cured eurathane glue that is clear and set rather firm yet can handle being stretched and strained up to 600% of its length without breaking. Its flexible enough to repair vacumn diaphrams, and the HV stands for High Vibration. 350 I believe is the temperature it can handle. HV-350 can be painted and has thousands of uses. It comes in a 3.35 ounce squeeze tube or 12 ounce cartridges.

I have even glued two seperate pieces of seat belt material together and hung from it...I was about 300 lbs at the time also. I was impressed.

Find it at www.******.com there is a where to buy page as well as alot more neat products.

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Wiki'd this here: Contact adhesive.

Montebrian -- had to edit your post, although you're more than welcome to add info on that product to the wiki. Thanks.

DanTwoLakes -- may I have your permission to use that pic in the wiki article?
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You don't need to ask, Jon. You're more than welcome to use any pictures I post.
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What is Wiki and how do you add stuff to it? I am a car guy first and foremost. I happen to work for a manufacturer that makes some good stuff. I'm just informing people about the stuff, Not really trying to sell it here or anything.

I would rather people search it out find our companies customers and buy products from them. I know there is a buy it now thingy on the companies web site, but its much better off buying it through a real store. We charge full retail with no discounts at all.

I try to send people to the "Where to buy page" that way they are selling it, not me. I do customer service and technical support of the products.

Sorry if I overstepped a boundry. I try to make usefull info in a post then add a product if its the right application. Especially since I am using a company computer to be here.
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Wiki is short for Wikipedia, an on line source of information (encyclopedia) that is contributed by people with knowledge about the subject. Here we have the Crankshaft Coalition Wiki. Anyone can start or edit an article. Go to the home page menu at the top of the screen and click on Tech Article Wiki. You need to set up an account, and once you do that, you will be free to add information to an article. There is an index, or menu of all the articles. Pick the article you want to edit and go to it.
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Thanks Dan -- added the pic.

Montebrian -- unfortunately, we've had to implement a policy whereby, if you're associated with a company, you can't post urls for that company. This is, admittedly, an imperfect solution for dealing with people (mostly stealth marketers) who, unlike you, have been less-than-scrupulous about posting company details. You can put your company's url in your user profile, and then you can just say: "Check my user profile for the url". If you have an idea about how we can better regulate such postings, please post in the Site Suggestions and Help forum, and I'll check it out. Either way, the HV-350 product looks interesting, and I've added info on it to the wiki article. Hope that makes sense.

"Wiki" is the type of software most famously used to run Wikipedia. For example, the United States intelligence community (CIA, FBI, etc.) uses a private wiki to share information, called Intellipedia. Another example is this wiki for making DIY 3D printers. Or, this Lyric wiki, and this psychology wiki. Here's a South Park wiki, and a GI Joe wiki. Etc. Wikis are similar to a forum, but instead of just "discussing", people get together to build articles. For example, consider an informative, 20-page thread in a forum, involving 100 or so members. When everyone's done discussing, you have a helpful, but rambling, 20 pages of info. If those 100 people did the same thing on a wiki, you'd end up with one informative article.

Anyway, we're using that same wiki software to make a hotrodding encyclopedia. Just like you can add posts to a forum discussion, you can edit a wiki article. Over time, after articles have been through many edits, they become high-quality resources for certain topics. You can compare this thread with the Contact adhesive wiki article to see the difference in clarity and quality.
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I have used DAP in the past but not DAP trim adhesive, is it only available in gallons? I only need to do one headliner (and that only on the front and back edges) and some small pieces on the doors. That clear stuff in the tube I had gotten from Wal-Mart held strong and solid as soon as the parts were stuck together while 3M super trim adhesive needed to be held in place for a while or it would pull loose. I will see if I can find the DAP trim product locally.
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They got the right idea!
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This might help you too...http://www.yourautotrim.com/perhittrimad.html
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