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Old 12-22-2008, 11:13 AM
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Correct Way to Leave Car on Jack Stands?

I'm doing some work on my '64 Pontiac Tempest over the holiday and I would like recommendations for the best way to leave a car on jack stands.... front and rear. Currently I have the front wheels off and I lowered the front until the lower control arms are resting on jack stands. I though this would be better than putting the jack stands behind the front wheels under the frame torque boxes. I have the jack stands underneath the wells where the coil spring sits. What I find interesting is that the front end is locked and does not move up and down. Am I doing anything wrong? Should I place the jack stands elsewhere? In the rear I was going to place them under the differential housing as close to the wheels as possible.

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use a safety block

the jack stands should b e where the area is flat''' under a arms is usually sloped and slamming a door or bumping it can cause it to go sideways. we had a couple of cars up in the air when the 89 earthquake hit in Calif.. one came down. I have a 12 inch piece of well casing and a tree stump I call my buddy. one of them is always under there with me when i crawl under a car
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Where you have the stands is fine......also under the rear axle is the best spot for the rear.
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What I find interesting is that the front end is locked and does not move up and down. .
If you have the stands under the spring pockets, there is not enough leverage to overcome the springs at this point.

The farther out you get, the more leverage..
Keep in mind---the tires are out past the control arm, so the weight of the car normally rests outside the control arm point

Under the spring pockets is just fine, or I like to put the stands between the spring pocket and the ball joint---this way it (the stand) somewhat captured
between the spring pocket----ball joint---and flanges of the lower arm.
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I'm doing some work on my '64 Pontiac Tempest over the holiday and I would like recommendations for the best way to leave a car on jack stands.... front and rear. Currently I have the front wheels off and I lowered the front until the lower control arms are resting on jack stands. I though this would be better than putting the jack stands behind the front wheels under the frame torque boxes. I have the jack stands underneath the wells where the coil spring sits.
Personally I would much rather have the stands under solid frame rails than under the springs. There's one less variable that could cause the car to come off the stands. Unless I need the springs compressed for a reason (like replacing the rear shocks) I always put the stands under the boxed part of the frame. On an GM A-body, I'll jack the front under the crossmember and put the stands under the boxed parts of the frame behind the front wheels. At the rear, I'll jacj up under the center section then put the stands under the frame rails directly below the attachment points for the rear lower control arms. These are the recommended support points in the Chassis Service Manual.

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I Jack up the rear 1st.

I put the stands as close to the wheels as possible.

Then you can jack up the front using the cross member .

Keeping your attention to the rear stands & the wheels on the floor jack make sure they are rolling .

Also use a 2 x 6 in between metal on flat area when you do not want metal to metal to slide.

Doing it this way allows the rear to pivot & less likely to kick out the stands.

Then if your drive train is IN use the lower control arms usually where the shock goes thru the hole will allow you enuf area for a good connection with the jack stands.

If you have no drive train in place you can put the stands as close to the bends in the frame but still on the flat area.

After setting a four of the stands shake the vehicle you may need to reset any of them.

Use common sense when lifting anything heavy.

Some times on my trucks I will add a extra one under the Reese hitch in the rear & maybe a couple extra in the front.




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Personally I would much rather have the stands under solid frame rails than under the springs. There's one less variable that could cause the car to come off the stands. Unless I need the springs compressed for a reason (like replacing the rear shocks) I always put the stands under the boxed part of the frame. On an GM A-body, I'll jack the front under the crossmember and put the stands under the boxed parts of the frame behind the front wheels. At the rear, I'll jacj up under the center section then put the stands under the frame rails directly below the attachment points for the rear lower control arms. These are the recommended support points in the Chassis Service Manual.
I originally had them under the boxed section behind the front wheels but I don't like having the entire front end hanging as a cantilever load (think spring board for diving). I think this is OK for a short period but not for a couple of weeks. To me it makes more sense having the frame loaded similar to how it is when the wheels are on. In addition to the jack stands, I also keep one jack on each side under the frame rails just behind the front tires with a little pre-load.
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I like the fronts under the frame. Make sure you use quality stands.
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6 ton stands are a great investment,, I put mine under the frame when I can..Depends on what I'm working on..
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i built risers to set my tires on when i jack my nova up, works great.
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i built risers to set my tires on when i jack my nova up, works great.

Can you post some pix ?



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I cut some 1/2" plywood or equiv. in squares the size i wanted and stacked them up as hi as my jack would go (screwing them together as i stacked.
leave enough room to add chocks front and rear on top ( screw these on also)
hope this helps

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ps mine are bout 9" tall
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When this is hashed out, it can be added here: wiki safety article.
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