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Old 01-12-2012, 07:59 PM
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Cost of a chop?

Like some opinions of what a chop should cost (low to high range) on a station wagon. Not a show piece...gonna stay a rat but still want a nice job. Wondering what this should cost with the glass work done and everything. Also, if anybody can recommend a shop near Baltimore...


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I charge 1500 to chop a coupe not including glass but i do fix the trim rings, average glass costs me around 850 installed. not including final finish and paint. Baltimore is going to be higher than georgia. (lived and worked in dc balt for 20+years).wagon probably more also (never chopped a wagon). Used to be a good custom shop in Odenton that was good and reasonable do not remember the name but a cool black dude ran it, he would be in mid 50s now awesome custom work. I learned a lot just seeing a few freinds cars done there.
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I charge 1500 to chop a coupe not including glass but i do fix the trim rings, average glass costs me around 850 installed. not including final finish and paint. Baltimore is going to be higher than georgia. (lived and worked in dc balt for 20+years).wagon probably more also (never chopped a wagon). Used to be a good custom shop in Odenton that was good and reasonable do not remember the name but a cool black dude ran it, he would be in mid 50s now awesome custom work. I learned a lot just seeing a few freinds cars done there.
Hmmm...thought that small Corvair wagon would be easier because the "B" and "C" pillars are pretty vertical. Thanks for the info. Don't seem to be able to find a shop in Odenton on the net but I'll keep looking. Thanks again.
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I think its all about the quality here in so. California ive seen some awesome chops and some extremely horrible chops when I ask around the horrible ones seem to have paid $1000-$2000. The awesome ones $3000-4000 for the chop and in some cases up to $6000-$7000 including cutting windows and trim etc... Im looking to chop this car I just picked

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here in georgia for 5000.00 you can get your car chopped, painted, glass and interior. The best guy I know charges this(52 years doing customs) and his cars sell for 50k plus depending on the car. Just because your paying more does not mean the job is better...Just means you paid more!!!!! Its been my experience the really good customizers are older and dont advertise, You have to get in with them, swap with them and get in line. Average chop takes around 60 hours in primer and window rings done at 7k this is 116 bucks an hour....great body work should be no more than 60 hour. Unless your car is going to be worth over 150k finished it is STUPID to invest that much doe. Just My opnion>
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I completely agree with G&S.. Of course things are a bit more expensive here in So.Cal I'll be looking for someone willing to trade some work for
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All I know is with the odd curved windshield that glass is going to be the biggest cost. And you best take it to someone who knows what they are doing.

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After an "awesome chop", what is the Corvair wagon going to be worth. Nearly everything gets sold or traded eventually. I put a V6 Chevy in a 37 Ford coupe and no one wanted it, even though it had plenty of power and was light on the front end. Everyone wanted a SBC.
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I always use a couple of different glass guys. They are responsible for the glass and I buy it through them, costs a little more but if it is messed up itstheir dime not mine. There are enough problems in a build why add to them? I paid 1100 for chopped glass on a 57 ford delrio wagon once and that is the most i ever paid. Last chop was a 58 chev wagon and it cost 850 and the winsheild took a while to get. So Cal if anything should be cheaper with all the custom shops out there...If somebody thinks they are that good I would probably not like them anyway. I taught myself how to do everything that I do over the last 15 years...Go buy a 400.00 50 chevy and voodo larrys chop book and go for it! Do this and then work on your BABY! If I work on someone elses car their attitude is the first thing I look for. I have people that keep trying to get me to work ontheir cars and I wont because all they do is ***** about all the stuff that the last guy messed up. (you all know at least 1 of these!) Empower yourself and go for it! Otherwise buy a finished car and tell everyone you did it.
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Empower yourself and go for it! Otherwise buy a finished car and tell everyone you did it.
I completely agree with G&S..
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I always use a couple of different glass guys. They are responsible for the glass and I buy it through them, costs a little more but if it is messed up itstheir dime not mine. There are enough problems in a build why add to them? I paid 1100 for chopped glass on a 57 ford delrio wagon once and that is the most i ever paid. Last chop was a 58 chev wagon and it cost 850 and the winsheild took a while to get. So Cal if anything should be cheaper with all the custom shops out there...If somebody thinks they are that good I would probably not like them anyway. I taught myself how to do everything that I do over the last 15 years...Go buy a 400.00 50 chevy and voodo larrys chop book and go for it! Do this and then work on your BABY! If I work on someone elses car their attitude is the first thing I look for. I have people that keep trying to get me to work ontheir cars and I wont because all they do is ***** about all the stuff that the last guy messed up. (you all know at least 1 of these!) Empower yourself and go for it! Otherwise buy a finished car and tell everyone you did it.
I learned the lesson big time the first time I chopped a curved glass top. This was about 1984 and I had given the guy a fixed price on chopping his 56 Chevy pickup, $1500 double .

When it came time for the glass I found some dude who came recommended and he took the truck and about a week later called me and I will never forget the phone call "Hey Brian I just wanted to let you know we just broke the third windshield". He had broken THREE brand new windshields before he called me!

I went and got the truck and paid the guy for the glass he had installed and for the three winshields (about $800-900 as I remember). I accepted that I was in way over my head as I had chopped a bunch of tops but they were mostly all with flat glass (made a few plexiglass curved rear windows). I found a guy in a few cities away who I towed the truck to and this guy was nice enough to walk me thru fixing my mess. The biggest mistake I made was not having the glass cut before I was finished with the chop so I could fine tune the roof to fit the cut glass! The first glass guy I had didn't know crap and didn't tell me this and he was trying to cut glass to fit a roof that wasn't ready for the glass. He was just as green as I was!

After this other guy told me what to do, I took the truck home, made a fiberglass pattern out of the glass, cut the pattern down, modified the roof to fit it, gave that pattern to the glass shop (my new friend had recommended) and wham, the job was done. With the money spent on glass and the extra roof I bought this left me with about $100 profit.

I figure without any exaggeration what so ever with hauling the truck around and the work I did on it I figure I had about 200-300 hours in it. So I made a
about 50 cents to 75 cents an hour on the job. But that came with a huge education I am thankful for.

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Oh and by the way, I just googled that shop who helped me and the guy is still there. I am going to call him tomorrow and thank him for that help. I don't know if he will even remember me but I sure remember him and the help he gave me. I am sure I thanked him then but I am going to give him a call.

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its a lot quicker and easyier to make the pattern out of thin aluminum, you can actually intstall it with the seal to check fit and finish. Take duct tape and run a bunch of strips both ways on both sides to stiffin it up before u take it out. (This is how both the glass guys i know do it)
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Yeah I know that now, hell I spent another hundred bucks or so on the pattern. I wish I had a photo of it, I glassed in a cardboard tube from side to side to stiffen it and it worked pretty cool as a handle to carry and position it.

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Still looking for that kinda talent near Baltimore...not your typical hotrod town. GO RAVENS!
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