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Old 01-25-2006, 08:09 PM
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Cost of paint Job - complete do it your self job at home

Several Questions here:

1. What it is the average cost of a paint job that is done entiraly at home, meaning I strip all the old paint, body work, remove inteior, primer, sand, paint, clear, polish etc., the whole shabang. Using the common good quality paint, nothing fancy, one tone paint job.

2. Is it really hard to get good results (nice finish etc) for a 1st timer?

3. How hard is it to paint the SS racing stripes like camaro ones (the big fat ones on hood and trunk)?

4. Would it be cheaper and look better to do all the labor my self (strip, intrior removal, sand etc.) then take it to a pro painter?

Can it all be pulled off at home for less than $1000??? Thanks

More Questions:

If I was to work after school for 4 hours each day including the weekends...How quick could I have it done by? A month? (I have plenty of free time that I usualy spend in front of the TV or computer, and I want to start doing somthing with it!)

Also what is an easy color to paint? besides yellow and white... Im really really looking for a decent black or red/deep marron color on my nova, as my nova now is truely poop brown. I read in a old old hot rod mag that a black lacquer is very easy to paint and get good results for 1st timers???

Also how much of the car should I dissasemble for complete color change, is removing windows neccisary? And 1 more Q...Strip paint off to bare metal? Ive heard mixed feeling about this. Thanks for your guyses help! Im excited to get started!

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Old 01-25-2006, 08:16 PM
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The answer to the first question is too hard to predict because the prices of parts vary from car to car, and many other variables.

questions 2, 3, and 4 all depend on how much time and patience you are willing to invest

And to answer question 5..... Nope, not for the quality your asking for, you've got tools, paint, and other supplies to buy.
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:21 PM
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Well car is 1972 nova, have all the tools, gun, compressor, all the other stuff, if the helps...

If no one can give me a idea of what a cost of a home paint job can be done, then can someone who has painted a car at home before tell me how much they did it for?

Oh yes, I have plenty of time and pateince.
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My bonneville with a lot of rust to fix, Probably about 500-600 in materials. This was in 2001, probably more today, expecially for the steel I used. Using a cheaper line of single stage urethane, white omni. And a reasonable primer, marhyde 2k urethane. The paint itself was only 90 bucks for a gallon with the hardener, but sandpaper, paper, tape, welding wire, prepaint cleaner, reducer, thinner to clean gun, bodyfiller, compound if buffing, ect, all that adds up. With a base clear figure probably close to a grand or more in materials, depending on the work to be done, And its going to be a lot of time you have to be willing to invest, even more so if you don't have a lot of experience under your belt. To hard to predict, Some colors are very pricey and the color alone can run a few hundred if its in a high price code. If you mess up anything and have to fix and buy any more material, then or course more.
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:51 PM
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What sort of gun / compressor do you have, also do you have a DA.

I did a job reciently so I may be able to give you an idea.

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Old 01-25-2006, 09:00 PM
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The gun is a HVLP one from Harbor freight, Its not the best, but it should get the job done nicly. Im hooked up on air, its a craftsman 80 gallon 5.5HP Yes have Several DA's
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Warrant, I think You need to purchase a good gun if you intend to get good
results. Use your existing one for primer only.

For a $k buck you can do it in either SS or BC/CC

General pricing to give you an idea.

Good Quality gun. Devilbiss GFG-670G Plus gun $275.00
Material to mask the car $75 "Use HVAC Metal tape" works very well
Sanding Supplys $75.00

If your doing SS purchase some Mirka Abralon foam backed sanding discs
p500 , p1000, p2000, p4000. These are a god send for flattening the paint
and removing orange peel. 2 of each will be fine. $3.50 a pop ea

Buffing the paint, you can get a variable speed buffer for $50 - $75

Buffing pads, I use Presta wool pads, $20 a pop. Compound + polish
also presta $50.00

You need to move the fumes out so 2 boxed fans will work, $30.00

Use the rest for paint.

Hope this helps.

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First, as far as the paint gun. If it is your first paint job, I don't recommend buying a high dollar paint gun. You said that you have a HF HVLP. If it is the large Purple one, and it works correctly, you can get a decent paint job with it. The cost of the materials depends largly on the color. I bought a quart of Dupont for my daughter's car in Blue and it was about $80. Then got a qt of a Red for my son's truck and it was about $120. Big difference! Adding up the other materials will get you up there in price. You can use SPI primers and clear, and save quite a bit over the name brands (Dupont, BASF, PPG) and have a very high quality product. On the base coat, they do have a few colors of that, in gallons, that you can get really reasonably. I have used those, and they are also top notch.

If you already have the tools, you are probably looking at near $1000, or up, depending on the brand and color.

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yeah I agree with adt, use the gun you have,, when i started i painted many cars with a cheapo.. they usually spray fine, just don't last as long..
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I own a shop,and I know for a fact,even when doing my own cars,it usualy cost me a min. of 1000$ to 1500$ not counting labor.But I do use high quality paints and primers,and I use alot of them since I am a big fan of the prime and block,prime and block,prime and block method.Im also a big fan of the sand and buff theroy,therefor,I use alot of matterials.....as I always say.....Im sure someone will prove how wrong I am.
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Guys, On the gun. Its a good move to have a gun that can break down
or atomize the paint correctly, While a cheaper gun will do the reason I suggested having a good gun is that it will eliminate potential problems.

You can do really nice prep work that can be very time consuming but
blow it all with a gun that fails to lay the paint properly.

This would be my preference for a good fighting chance for success.

The other thing is paint aint cheap, even the cheap paint aint cheap !

A good gun will pay for itself...

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Use what ya got kid,never know till you try.

I did the same thing at your age,painted my car outside,wasn't perfect,but looked pretty good to me,everyone said I couldn't do it,but hey I looked cool in my newly painted comet.

But from experience I would say if you can afford it,buy good paint,it can make an amatuer look more like a pro than anything else.

I've used ppg concept,it dryes so fast its hard to get a run if your careful.

Practice on something first,but definitely go for it.
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If you were looking to make a career out of painting, I would recommend buying a Good (translated:Expensive) paint gun. For your first paint job on your own car, what you have should do just fine. If you expect perfection in that paint job, you likely may be disappointed. Remember this: there are very few "perfect" paint jobs. I have never seen one that I could not find a flaw in somewhere. Everything that I have ever painted, had a flaw somewhere. Many times I was the only one that knew that they existed, but they all worked on me some, as I am a perfectionist. Many times I have to take the position that, if someone is that picky, they can carry their butts on down the road.

Just buy some decent materials, and have fun with the project.

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Old 01-26-2006, 08:24 PM
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Ok let me ask this now, If I was to work after school for 4 hours each day including the weekends...How quick could I have it done by? A month? (I have plenty of free time that I usualy spend in front of the TV or computer, and I want to start doing somthing with it!)

Also what is an easy color to paint? besides yellow and white... Im really really looking for a decent black or red/deep marron color on my nova, as my nova now is truely poop brown. I read in a old old hot rod mag that a black lacquer is very easy to paint and get good results for 1st timers???

Also how much of the car should I dissasemble for complete color change, is removing windows neccisary? And 1 more Q...Strip paint off to bare metal? Ive heard mixed feeling about this. Thanks for your guyses help! Im excited to get started!

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I just painted this Jeep a couple months ago using Sherwin Williams base coat clear coat with a cheap hvlp gun for a total cost including primer and other supplies of aprox. $350. The best thing about base clear in my opinion is that a beginner can mess it up a little and still sand and polish it and make it look pretty good. in the case of this Jeep a little sanding and polishing yielded a MUCH better paint job than the factory applied.

here's how it started out.....

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...n/IMG_0337.jpg

Here's how it ended up....

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...n/IMG_0386.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...n/IMG_0384.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...n/9b7ac200.jpg

I went with Sherwin williams because it was the cheapest and it worked very well, you might want to check out this board...

http://www.autobody101.com/forums/forum-5.html
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