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Old 08-11-2006, 02:39 PM
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Could someone give these pics a study?

Don't know if this car classifies as a hot rod but with the 300 hp Northstar engine, it is fast like a hot rod. I bought this front wheel drive 93 Allante wrecked with the intention of fixing it up. It was hit on the drivers side headlight area which caused the passenger side wheel to slide into the curb. This bent the A-arm and strut. I had the A-arm straightened and have pulled out the upper frame rail. However, the passenger side wheel is forward about 1/2 in and the drivers side wheel is back about 1 in.

Could someone take a look at these pictures and tell me what might be bent and what I should do to repair it. I live near Los Angeles and had a frame shop look at it and they suspected the sub-frame might be bent. They said it would need to be replaced if it was bent. I can't find any evidence of buckling on the subframe or on the lower frame.

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Old 08-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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Hard to say what might be bent..looks like what I would call a heavy tweak,,a heavy tweak is enough to move the wheels around but not enough to show much in the way of buckling or bending..

Soo what I would say is to call around to some frame shops in the area to see if one of them will put it on the rack for you and do some measuring and inspections..that should tell the tale..expect to pay a fee for the inspection as this does tie up the rack and the tech to do that..

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Old 08-11-2006, 04:00 PM
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I would say if a frame shop that fixes frames for a living say its bent it must be bent. Do you have any reason to believe they didnt evaluate the damage properly ? Maybe a shop that specializes in frames only could give you a better evaluation,and point out the damage,just like anything else the more information you get the better decision you can make on your next step,good luck Johnny
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:01 PM
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I would check the drivers side a-arm for being bent, also check the a-arm mount on the frame side to see if it is bent back. do some measuring on center for both sides, also check centers on your strut towers. It may not look bent but when you start checking with measurements you may find a problem. Any time a wheel gets hit hard enough to bubble you have a good chance that the a-arm is bent. As to the sub-frame it is probably fine I suspect it is to the front for problems.

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Just my 2 cents.
I had a 97 Accura RL that was front wheel drive simillar to the Allante. It was hit head on and showed less damage on the unibody than what your pictures show. The insurance totaled the car because of the damage. Did you buy it with a title that indicates it is a salvage. Unibodies can be repaired but will more than likely give problems down the road with allignment and tire wear issues.
Like I said just my 2 cents.
Good luck with the repair.
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Kim,
I bought the car with a clear title and I ran a carfax and it showed everything as clear. The car only has 60k miles with non-deployed airbags.
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30dee,
I have a feeling what you said about the a-arm being bent could be what the problem is. When I get home tomorrow, I'll check.

How do I check the strut tower? Do I measure from the center top of the strut tower to the opposite rear corner on each side?
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You have the right idea on the strut towers but check top and bottom and when you check your a-arm and strut towers check from three or four points each it may measure straight at one point and not another, by the way nice work this will make a great car and that northstar is nice in any rig.

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I looked at the photos and read your post with real concern. You said that the a arm was straightened? Damaged suspension parts should be replaced! Your life, and others around you are at stake here. The photos of the upper rail also upset me. The rail did exactly what it is designed to do, collaps. It will have little or no strength now, and should also be replaced for safety reasons. Just because you can bolt parts to it, doesn't mean that it is safe. In another collision, it will probably cause considerably more damage and possibly personal injuries that should not occure.

As far as the hood being bent, it can probably be straightened also. It has likely bent in an area that it was designed to bend at. If you look at the bracing on the underside, you will see places where there are dents. The hood is designed to be weaker there, so it will bend under impact. That way it won't come in thru the windshield. Ti straighten that, you would need to work on the brace in order to straighten it to the original position. There again, it is a safety issue.

To repair an external body panel that is dented by cutting corners is one thing. To cut corners on structural or suspension repairs is a safety thing. If someone is injured or worse because of your faulty repairs, if you are lucky, you can be sued. That doesn't just go for repair shops.

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Replacing the upper rail is what I really would like to do. Right now this is just a temporary fix since I cannot find a good upper rail. Parts are no longer made for this car and it is extremely difficult to find used parts. I know that if I keep looking, one of these days I hope to find the parts that I need to make this car good again. Meanwhile, if anybody has any leads on Allante parts reasonably priced, please let me know.

Here's the result of my hood straightening. Unfortunately, I cannot get under the sheetmetal since there is a second layer stiffener right under the damaged area. I think I'm going to build the low spots up with epoxy. I figure about 1/8 in. thick of epoxy max is all it will need.

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