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Old 03-13-2008, 06:36 PM
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cracking fuel

anybody heard of this combing gasoline in its gas state or above the boiling point with a small amount of steam befor it inters the piston. its combined with the small amount of steam to produce hydro gasoline,cause just the gas of gasoline it will go back to its liquid form under pressure in the piston,then your suppossed to get out rages mpg.

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anybody heard of this combing gasoline in its gas state or above the boiling point with a small amount of steam befor it inters the piston. its combined with the small amount of steam to produce hydro gasoline,cause just the gas of gasoline it will go back to its liquid form under pressure in the piston,then your suppossed to get out rages mpg.
no that's a new on me...tell us more...where did you hear about it?
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Cracking fuel

Sounds an awful lot like the the old POGUE Carburetor from the 1930s. It worked (as I recall from reading some stuff on it many years ago) by heating the fuel to a vapor ("Vapour" if you live in Canada ) and got zillions of MPG in the ol' flatheads of the day. Was invented by a guy named Pogue, from Winnipeg. Not sure what ever happened to it - many stories about being bought off by the oil companies (yet another conspiracy theory), while other stories claimed that it just plain didn't work well, and other stories that it fried the valves, melted pistons etc in the test cars due to insane combustion temps.

I just did a gargle search on "Pogue Carburetor" to see what would turn up!

Yup- everything from conspiracy theories, to "it just can't work because...", to (well, you name it!)

A gargoyle search can find all sorts of things.....

Now that I am thinking of ol' Charles Pogue (from my hometown of years ago!) I just may decide to mess around with something like that on an ol' lawnmower engine as a "test mule".....
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:18 PM
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WHAT CAN U TELL ME OF THE FISH CARB and in cracking what if the set up is a disel type with a 4 stroke and used forged pistons?
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:11 PM
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Fish Carb

Maybe if I just say "carb" I won't get into spelling wars of "English" vs "American" usage?

The "Fish" was one I didn't do much reading on, although from the very little I did see on it, it was supposed to result on a lot more power, not specifically more mileage. Apparently Fireball Roberts won the 1955 Daytona race with a Fish Carb on a Buick nailhead, and was later disqualified for "illegally shortened pushrods"

So - maybe if it resulted in more POWER, then the judicious use your right foot might also result in more MPG.

As an aside, I also did a bit of reading up on the use of Compressed Natural Gas as a fuel. Here where I live, most taxis run on CNG. It has some "interesting" side effects - since it is a compressed gas, you cannot get as much fuel into a tank as you can with propane, so it usually has a shorter range on a tankful (fillups are more often). HOWEVER, I seem to recall seeing somewhere that it has an almost infinite octane rating, so that the very best engines for it would be a diesel converted to spark ignition. (Hmmmm - maybe one of the older GM diesels that was built on an Olds 350 block might show some promise?) As a result, it is not really good on "dual fuel" cars based on a gasoline engine

One advantage of CNG is that it will still be a gas at very cold temps, while (I do not know this for sure!) propane reportedly won't readily gassify at REALLY cold temps - like those experienced in northern Great Plains States and the Prairie Provinces of Canada, as well as Alaska, Yukon and NWT, making it a bit useless at certain times of the year.

Gasoline prices are "interesting" hereabouts. The price here today is $1.21 per litre for regular. So, if the Canadian dollar is at $1.03 US and there are 3.78 litres to a US gallon, this translates to $4.71 per US gallon, in US funds. By the same conversions, premium is well over $5.00 per US Gallon in US funds.

Looks like economy may be a bit more important?
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