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Old 02-09-2013, 01:43 PM
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Crazy repair costs of late model cars.

We have a 2012 Hyundai Genesis in the shop right now that we thought was going to be repaired no problem, the repair was at about $12k and it this wire harness damage kicked it up to total land and 62% of value at over $17k!

You are looking at where two wire harnesses come together at that large plug. This is right under the right headlamp. The plugs are blown apart, and are not available separately, you have to buy the two harnesses. Are you ready for this, one is about $500 the other is $3700! And with $1700 to install it is $5900 just for those two plugs basically. And yes if it were my car I would try a bunch of butt connectors but in this day and age with life time warrantees and needing to follow the manufacturers guidelines for repair and complex electronics changing something like this could change resistance or some BS and we just can't take the chance anymore.

This is a Hyundai remember!

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Old 02-09-2013, 01:55 PM
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Cheap cars = expensive repairs. Hyundais, Kias, parts are rediculous.
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Absolutely crazy. I remember my mother drove an older Lexus LS400 when I was in high school and it had a blowout on the freeway. Ripped some wiring apart (i imagine it was to the ecm, I never really dug around in the car) apart and insurance totaled the car. I don't know what the value of the harness was, but it was worth more than a 10 year old Lexus about 10 years ago.

I miss that car though, I learned how to drive in it and the 4.0L V8 made great power for what it was. It was just an all around good cruiser.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:02 PM
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How about this to really kick this story into high gear.

He bought it a year ago for probably $40k (the 2013 goes from $37-47k!)It's now worth about $22K!

Ok, are you ready for this? It has been in the shop five times since this past September!
Sept 2012 $10,000 in repairs
Oct 2012 $1,500
Oct 2012 $2,500
Dec 2012 $9,000
Jan 2013 $18,000

This time we (if it gets fixed) will be replacing the front sub frame and all the right front suspension that we just installed in Dec!

Yes folks, I am not making this up.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:35 AM
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Seems so excessive to me. The last new car I bought cost $300 less than that one wiring harness. It just kind of seems unreal the price everything has gotten to be these days. I really thought people would stop buying these overpriced new vehicles, I just can't see it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:37 AM
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P. S. Is that guy a bad driver or why is it in the shop so much?
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:48 AM
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I believe he is a bad driver, or has some "issues", there is a long list of things from physical to mental to alcohol, frankly it is scary that this guy is still driving. A couple of the events were single car where he ran over an island and another a bolder in the road?

Very odd stuff indeed. He was canceled from his insurance this last time. They are covering this one, but no more.

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thats so they all get totally after they are 3-5y/o gets them off the road, and you back at dealer to buy another.. and why insurance rates go up and up and up.
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So the car has sustained body damage 5 times? Sounds like the owner needs a remedial driving course to me.
As for the cost...as the car gets older...value goes down, desirabitiliy lessens and so in turn prices for parts become more realistic.
I would guess your hands are tied by the law which dictates the manner in which this particualer job is performed
In which a harness would be the way to go.
It is what it is, parts cost money. Wiring harnesses seem to be pretty crazy in price for most anything.
No chance you could put a salvage yard haress on it ?
Dont know how nuts the Law is in Cali on this kind of stuff.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:09 AM
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So the car has sustained body damage 5 times? Sounds like the owner needs a remedial driving course to me.
As for the cost...as the car gets older...value goes down, desirabitiliy lessens and so in turn prices for parts become more realistic.
I would guess your hands are tied by the law which dictates the manner in which this particualer job is performed
In which a harness would be the way to go.
It is what it is, parts cost money. Wiring harnesses seem to be pretty crazy in price for most anything.
No chance you could put a salvage yard haress on it ?
Dont know how nuts the Law is in Cali on this kind of stuff.
No salvage harnesses available, we checked. The hard part with that is can you imagine your average wrecking yard sending Homer out to remove it!

This is the second car this month with a wire harness that cost a mint. How about a Nissan Altima that hit something in front and the rad support (made of "plastic") broke and came back hitting the ECM which is mounted next to the battery. All it did to the ECM was broke the plastic tabs that hold the wire harness onto it, and the harness, all it broke were the plastic "locks" on the end of the wire at the plug that locks over the plastic tab on the ECM to hold the harness to the ECM. That is all it broke, well I didn't catch that at first, I was thinking it needed the harness because the "Plug" was broken, not realizing that the piece needed could be removed off a new harness and simply clipped onto the old harness, good as new. So, that was $950 for the harness, $1700 installation, $750 for the ECM and $200 for reprogramming at the dealer. It was a total at that point, but then I noticed the harness could be repaired. I looked into a used harness "chunk" where they cut off a foot of harness at the ECM, checked on a used ECM too. The "wrecking yard" we deal with (one of them) is kinda like the Walmart of wrecking yards. We are talking this company owns wrecking yards nation wide, this is a multi billion dollar company I am thinking LKQ Click here. Anyway, these guys WILL find just about anything. The hard part with the ECM is it needs to match the VIN for required part number and of course there are a BUNCH of different ones, so he found a couple, $150 each. Ok, but they are still a gamble we don't like to make for our customer. The wire harness, all I needed was a foot of the wire harness, and they usually charge a mint for something like this because the new one is $950 this foot, no kidding, they will charge a few hundred bucks and the insurance company is always ok with it because it isn't the $950. Even at that they couldn't find one that wasn't hacked up!

So we bought a new harness, ECM and put those little pieces on from the harness on, $2 worth of parts, and then tossed the harness in the garbage. It is worthless to us. But the car was "saved".

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Mftca bumper sticker

The Model T Ford Club of America has a bumper sticker.

The more I am around modern Cars the MORE I like my Model T Ford.
I 'v seen a lot of newer cars in the Bone Yard, No body damage, excellent interiors, Elect or Computer problems. Costs too much to fix.
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I have been planning on making one for the Rambler but never have. It reads:
"No check engine lights, no computer, I love my Rambler".

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