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Old 12-29-2005, 09:13 AM
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It's not that a Mustang IFS CAN'T be used, just that it's ugly. Fat Man and Heidt's make IFS suspensions based on the MII design that don't look so bad (Heidt's "Superide"). The big thing is they replace the upper arms with straight tubes in a triangular shape and replace the sping and hats with coil over shocks. Those would be decent lookinig, but there is no readily available OEM suspension that would. The MII has a great big ugly upper A-arm that needs to be covered up. There's a thread on modifying a truck frame on the board somewhere, take a look at that. The MII suspension is pretty much the same, and would look just as bad.
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the rear brackets i came up with, still have to figure out whre exactly to put the coil over mount holes
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and teh patterns for the front end
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Mii Irs

I don't want to take over this thread, I think lowROLLER is onto something. I've seen Heidt's or somebody makes a MII based tubular A-Arm kit that has a crossmember that looks like a "K" lying down. Like I said, I like the Track-T look, and this set-up would fit my plan (daydream). The stock stamped arms would truly be ugly on a fenderless ride.
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im also working on throwing in a setup for quarter elliptical springs, front and rear

(what i previously called suicide front end, but it looks like thats the old school term for anything with a straight axle up front)

the QE setup in back will use the spring as the lower control arm, and then the upper arm will most likely be angled, they will ahev a built in ride hight adjusting bolt

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3d view of the the rear axle bracket for using hairpins, the brackets for other suspensions will be modified versions of the same
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the plans for "sparky" ..... what im calling the T thats set up to be barely ride height legal

118 wheel base, 30" rear tires, 4 foot tall at the top of the windsheild (approx)

id probably have a full set of plans by now if i didnt have to figure out body demensions using side views of hot rods and a set of calipers to figure out scale using wheel sizes ...
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for you IFS on a T haters

red outline shows the outline @ the radiator, on the right youll see the grill shell of "sparky"

done pushrod style ...

the only thing that would show of the upper perch would be just enough to attach the upper control arm, and that could be used to mount the headlights anyways, use heims in place of bushings ... and you have a VERY clean look
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updated IFS design

3d of the basic crossmember
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t bucket plans...

hey! i was wondering if the t bucket plans are still available? if someone could please email them to ericl@spm1.com that would be great..

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the set from the old thread were taken down because they were the property of ccr

your just gona have to hold out till i have a complete set of plans here

the first set wont have a detailed write up, mostly just patterns and measurements, but they will be good enough to work with
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I'm not sure that many people "hate IFS on a T", the problem was Mustang II and existing stock style IFS on a T. Just damned ugly! Your idea looks nice and clean, but would take a lot of work to build and get all the pivots and angle right. Since there's the push-rod/link in there I'd as soon put a coil over in instead of hiding them behind the radiator. At that point it's obviously an IFS, so why be concerned? Heidt's makes a nice looking IFS (Superide) that would look fine on an open wheeled car. Then you can always go with the center pivot straight axle conversion.

So far it looks good though. Ride height can be altered easy enough with less kick-up in the rear and changing mounting points in the front. Stick with a traditional straight axle for now, add the IFS later! A T is just more of a modern track car with an IFS instead of a traditional, extra simple rod. Simplicity means low cost, and that's usually the idea behind building a T to begin with. I might consider building a T frame for the Mercur XR4ti drivetrain I have (turbo 2.3L, T-5, and IRS). Would have to have a IFS if I use the IRS though! Can alwyas drop the IRS for a traditional axle.

Rod & Custom did a lot of skid pad testing a while back. A straight axle car handles just as good, possibly a bit better, than IFS. I say a bit better because there is no camber change in hard turns like you have with IFS. Ride quality is greatly improved because one wheel bump doesn't affect the other. But for handling there's no advantage to an IFS -- at least not on a good road. I can see where there may be an advantage on a bumpy road though.
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lil more progress on sparky ...
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sparky with a SBC and a quick change
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Hey lowROLLERchevy, Just wanted to say THANK YOU for what you are doing. I am from the old school and like to build as much as I can and any and all help is appreciated. Again, thanks and keep up the good work. circlehill@hotmail.com
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