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Old 05-05-2006, 07:34 PM
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my computer is incapable of runing a cad program ... it locks up just starting one up, heck, it sometimes locks up just trying to start coreldraw ...

so im using the emachineshop program as (for the most part) a 2d drafting program, and then individual parts i want a 3d view of i have to do seperate file. theres no way to make multiple parts and then combine them to give 3d asembly views

so for the most part, its just a glorified piece of graph paper
You deserve some kind of medal for persistence. It sounds like you either have a bad memory stick or piles of malware (assuming MS Windows). How much RAM? Have you tested it? See http://memtest86.com/ If the RAM checks out ok with that, it could still be a hardware problem. Can you give detailed specs on the machine and software? I don't know jack about building a t-bucket frame but maybe I can help you with the tools for drafting it.

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found this in an earlier message I overlooked:

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my system is just an 370(?) pin intel celeron 1.8 gig with 256mb of ram
Jeez! I thought from the way you talked you were using a P166 w/32MB RAM! Unless there is a hardware defect, there is no excuse for that machine not to zip through CAD work. It sounds more and more like either a memory stick gone bad or a pile of MS Windows malware got you again.

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Old 05-07-2006, 10:15 PM
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it SHOULD be able to zip thru cad, but for some reason it doesnt, it never has even when the tower and everything in it was brand new. i have no idea why either

back in january or whenever, i did a complete system wipe / reinstall, and the first thing i installed after doing so was cad, and it wouldnt even run itthen

i would LOVE to get these plans done ASAP, but its just not in the cards for me right now. i have over 20 vehicals i have to do custom fab work for (turbo kits, body kits, SS exhausts etc) .... i actualy spent the last 6+ weeks trying to get 2 cars ready for carlisle performance and style, i worked 12 hour days on them, almost every day, and only one of the 2 made it, the other one was close (cosidering we started with basicly a shell and a mound of parts)

and oh yea, im starting a biz along w/ a few other people, we have a 16 bay shop and 2 of the guys would seam to have all the money they need.....

so needless to say ... i wont be getting to finishing the plans for a while ....
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You've put in a ton of work on the plans already. I salute your generosity in sharing all of that.

My offer to help with that computer remains open. I've never built a car from scratch, but I've fixed a helluva lot of computers. My suggestion is to download memtest86 and let it run about 24 hours. No sense looking for software problems if your RAM developed a bad spot. It can run while you're working on those cars.
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I think your best bet is to create a very basic frame plan with a standard front axle and rear suspension then post that. At that point people can more easily point out problems and make suggestions for improvement. If you have a site you can post to just post the link here when you have something basic up, and ask for criticism. There should be no problem receiving that!
I think this is a great place to start - just the basics and move on from there, but we'll need to define what a "standard" frame would consist of.

I would start with:

*) Type of tubing.
CCR = 2"x3"x.188"
In Chet Greenhalgh's book it's the same.
Anyone know this dimension for Speedway, Total Performance, Spirit, etc. frames?

*) Front crossmember
CCR = round
Chet's = square
Others??

*) Length of the front side portions of the frame.
CCR = 90".
Chet's = 87"
Others??

*) Angle of the upswept portion.
In the CCR plans and Chet's book this is 45 degrees and I would imagine that's pretty much standard, but I may be wrong - speak up if I am!

*) Length of the upswept portion.
CCR = 8"
Chet's = 8-1/2"
Other's??

*) Length of the tail section
CCR = 9"
Chet's = 12
Others??

*) Front crossmember
CCR = round
Chet's = square
Others??

*) Overall length.
CCR = 102-1/2" (I think, +/- due to rounding for the front cross member)
Chet's = 105"
Others??

*) Frame width.
CCR = 26-1/2" front and rear.
Chet's = 25" front, 30" rear.
Others??

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T- bucket plans

I could probably e-mail a few gazillion mega-bits of a drylakes kinda roadster drawings that I have developed on auto-cad 2000. A real hodge-podge of dims.
The drawings take up an amazing amount of storage in my c - drive, so I've deleted most of them over time. ie. stuff missing.
When you build ( or rather, when I build ) the ideas and thoughts that you
( I ) start with change as you learn, find better parts, or the money supply ebbs and flows.
I learned most off my tricks when I was in hi-school, class of 1964. The little mags were required reading.
You all know what you like and what looks good, stick to that instead of a 'blueprint', just use a massive amount of common sense when you do.
My current project has a very light chassis and may be changed out as the car gets miles on it. I'll see.

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Hi OddRod,

I appreciate the offer, but I'm not really interested in dry lakes kinda roadsters. I'm just interested in a nice low buck street cruiser that's easy to construct and keep running.

I'm sure if we compare existing vehicles that we'll soon find some commonality between them and will be able to produce a set of plans that will allow construction of a very respectable machine.

It's nice that these little vehicles allow for so much tailoring to each individual's tastes but we're not all experienced rodders, chassis engineers, etc. nor do we all have highly equipped shops. I would think that a base blue print that if followed could produce a nice machine would be a great service to the beginning builder. I know I for one would prefer to pretty much follow a blueprint for my first build so that my chances for success will be good. Once my skill level increases (from my T building experience) and my confidence is boosted every time I take that little car for a spin then I think I would become more adventurous towards modifications or future projects. A blank canvas may be good for some, but others prefer a paint by the numbers for their first experience.

I haven't even priced steel yet, but I'm already enjoying this project!!!!

/Steve
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t-frame

New guy screws up!

Looks like I came in on the end of a thread and not the start.

Sorry about not reading everything first.
However.

I am building a roadster with quarter ecliptic's on all four corners and have a little insight developing on that score.
I will have a longer w.b. due to the rear springs poking out another 18" or so.
No rear kick up on this one means no frame much past the spring/chassis mount. Running out of room for feet and pedals.
Being that there are no Ford parts on this one means that everything gets bilt here in the shop. That makes it harder to get done in a timely manner.

Keep bangin away and it will get done.
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Hi OddRod,

Pics, we need pics!!!! Sounds like an interesting project!

"Keep bangin away and it will get done."



Absolutely!!!!

Take Care,

Steve
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I could probably e-mail a few gazillion mega-bits of a drylakes kinda roadster drawings that I have developed on auto-cad 2000. A real hodge-podge of dims.

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Old 06-05-2006, 07:22 PM
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working on building a website to house all the stuff i have, and so that everything is easily viewable / downloadable / printable
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what is the latest on this plans project?

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nothing lately

ive been working on cars all summer so far
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Host plans?

Hey there, just read this extremely interesting thread.

Is there need for some webhosting for plans? I have a server I can post about 500mb worth of plans on, and I can generate a quick index page for it all.

Cheers!
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please

i wanted download the plans, but all the previous dl links are gone
is there anyone who would be so kind to mail them to me
mecanica_lourenco@yahoo.com.br tank you
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help

where can i get step by step plans for a t bucket
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