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Crown Victoria front suspension

Is anyone familiar with using the 03 and newer Crown Victoria complete front suspension/cross member/brakes in a street rod. Someone told me that the mounting pads were 34 inches wide which would be very close to what I need for two different projects. An inexpensive, factory engineered suspension is very appealing to me. I would really appreciate hearing from anyone that has information either good or bad.

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I have seen it used on a mid sixties Ford pickup. Works very well
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we started to use it under a 67 ford truck. the problem is your limited on wheel size. from hub to hub they are very wide. you have to run the stock type wheels with it which just did not look right . great set up but just too wide.
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What are you putting it under? If it's a fat fender rod you can widen the fenders and put any wheels you want under it
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it's an alum cross member it can be made any width you need.. besides most rods use thinner wheels in front over the rears anyways, as far as wheel choices, and any limitations, that's just a drill bit change away.
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the crown vic sets in a 34 in frame . there are a lot of threads on f100 forum on this swap . it is a bolt in set up. but the off set on wheels is the only problem you will run into. on a 72 ford truck we used the stock wheels . they cleared ok but all the off set went to the inside . would like to have run a deeper wheel.
this thread is pretty good with a ton of pics.

Buildup!! 06 crown vic front suspension into 67 F100 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
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Thanks to everyone for the information you offered. My first thought was the 37 Ford sedan I am working on and it sounds like this could be made to fit well.
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your going to be way too wide with the crown vic. look into a fatman mII kit .
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Thanks to everyone for the information you offered. My first thought was the 37 Ford sedan I am working on and it sounds like this could be made to fit well.
Your '37 has a front track of 56 1/2". '83-'01 S-10 is 54 1/2". '74-'79 Mustang II is ~55 1/2".
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it's an alum cross member it can be made any width you need.. besides most rods use thinner wheels in front over the rears anyways, as far as wheel choices, and any limitations, that's just a drill bit change away.
When you narrow the crossmember on a front clip, you toss away all the factory engineering geometry and end up with whatever you end up with.
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the crown vic is 67.5 in . not going to work on any early iron.
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I am confused by the idea that narrowing a front cross member changes the geometry. It seems like you would change the track width but not the geometry if the cross member was narrowed correctly. I have seen narrowed rear irs that worked out just fine. What am I missing?
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rear wheels dont turn look up ackerman angle .
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I am confused by the idea that narrowing a front cross member changes the geometry. It seems like you would change the track width but not the geometry if the cross member was narrowed correctly. I have seen narrowed rear irs that worked out just fine. What am I missing?
It will change the Ackerman, probably not enough to make a difference. You will also need a narrower rack, by the amount you narrow the crossmember. As long as the Ackerman is close, all the major manufacturers ignore any minor errors.

You should stay with a wheel offset that is similar to the crown Vic, the suspension is designed for it, and offsetting the wheels the other direction messes up the scrub radius.
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Thanks to enjenjo for your comments. After reading up on Ackerman angle it seemed like it would be very important on a circle track car but not so much on a street car. I wonder if the original rack could be used if appropriate length inner and or outer tie rod ends could be used to achieve the correct width. Has anyone ever tried such a thing? I wish I could afford a prefabbed kit but this is a budget project and the expense is out of the question. I already own saws, mills and a tig welder so I am looking at a savings of at least $1500 if I can modify the Vicky part. Thanks to everyone for your thoughts. I appreciate your time.
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