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Curious about paints

Hey guys, can any of your paint experts inform me a bit about industrial paints. Im specifically wondering about metal pro supplied by napa. What kind of paint is it. It comes with a urethane catylist. Oh also are there any suppliers of lacquer paints.. not for me a friend is fninshing a 52 chev shortly. Thanks folks.

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Lacquer is still around but the new stuff is junk due to EPA regs. Metal Pro is an industrial coating. Napa does carry Martin Senour paint which is decent
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I know its an industrial coating...but what kind of paint is it?
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most likely a converted enamel. ok for painting forklifts.
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converted enamel???
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probably an enamel based urethane. you dont want it on your car .
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Dont they use urethane enamel for automotive refinishing?
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I have an old dodge work truck... 91 to be exact.. i was going to mix some dark blue and red metal pro remains together.. try and get her close to plum crazy.. i was just wondering what kind of paint it was so i could determine the characteristics..gloss durability and such.. thnks for the fast responces Shine
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Dont they use urethane enamel for automotive refinishing?
Urethanes are used, but there diffrent than what is used for automotive finishing. Apples and oranges.. As far as being 'tough', Metal Pro is, and probably glosses fairly easy, but it probably lacks durability from UV..

As far as what it really is, is probably Alky'd enamel with a Urethane hardner. probably not much diffrent than rustoleum.. Urethane auto paints are Urethane, plain and simple
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thanks Matt. The gent at the store said that the paint becomes a urethane when it is catalized. This is the way for most urethane paints? is it not? I thought it may be an alkyld enamel also.. but this leads me to believe it may be a true urethane.
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urethane?

If it is a urethane, not all urethanes are equal. To cut cost the catalyst could be changed to a cheaper version which would lower cost and lower UV resistance. Also lower flexiblility which would lead to cracking down the road. There are Acyrlic urethanes, polyester urethanes and combinations of the 2.

Just because it says urethane does not mean it is a great coating.
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Napa is a great place to buy parts but the guys at the counter know nothing about their paints.
Buy your paint from a autobody supplier or contact the manufacturer I believe its still Martin Senior Paints they can tell you exactly what it is ...All your getting here are guesses...
low end paints like acrilic enamel are perfect for an old work truck and are cheap and ez to spray ,they just dont shine long...maybe 4-5yrs
converted urathane enamels will last longer 6-10yrs but cost a little more
Both will give a DIY a pretty good looking job for a few years...You wouldnt want to use then on a restoration or anything with a few hundred hrs of work in them but they are perfect for what you just described.
I would at least go with a converted urathane if it was me because I have used acrilic enamels years ago and feel the extra cost is worth it.but I was happy with the cost Vs results from acrilic enamel at the time.You probably would be also...
acrilic emamels cost around 50.00 a gal (hardener optional) and converted Urathane enamels start around 100.00 a gal *(hardener required)
anything less than than these two types is just a waste of time and anything more is a waste of money....For a work truck anyway..
Theres a (Right Paint ) for every job ...No one in there right mind would spend 1,000.00 in paint on a 500.00 car.(althogh I have seen it) and on the same note you wouldnt want 50.00 a gal paint on a 50,000.00 car either....(I've seen that too)
Theres no ONE paint for every job....IMO ,I would absolutly recomend a converted urathane emamel but nothing less than an acrilic enamel (with hardener)
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