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View Poll Results: Would you rather do your interior work or pay someone else?
Do it Myself - ALWAYS 31 56.36%
Half & Half 20 36.36%
Pay a Professional 4 7.27%
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Old 07-18-2003, 08:39 AM
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Custom door panels

You do get some pretty hard lines when doing that without foam, but as to the feel, I dont really think it is to hard when you cover it with the material, You also can use 1/8 inch closed cell foam (Used on landau tops for padding) on top of your design that you cut out which will give you a pretty smooth feel with a strong edge line so the artwork stands out. I havent taken pic's yet, but monday i will remember to grab the darn digital from home and take some shots of the designs. (The wife keeps stealing it for pic's of our daughter!!!

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Interesting ... I guess you could also sand and round off the edges as much or as little as you want.

I've entertained some daydreams about doing what you're talking about ... only covering the 1st board with one color vinyl (where it's gonna show through), then covering the art-part in another, and then fixing them together.

I'm gonna be doing the interior in my truck this Summer & Fall and plan on doing some very original things. I saw two front seats out of a new (wrecked) Lincoln last week that were perfect for my plans *except* it was a 4-door and the seats didn't fold forward. This scrapyard I go to has 22 acres of wrecks! ANY seats you want are $45 each -- these seats from this Lincoln would probably cost $1000 from the dealer!

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I do alot of panels without foam. With materials like UltraLeather and UltraSuede you can get super crisp edges without foam. So you can make some pretty cool designs bye cutting and layering the panel board. Plus, how much padding are you really going to get with 1/4" of foam?
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Old 07-19-2003, 08:03 AM
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Got any pics? I haven't seen any photos of any applications like what we're discussing, but the layering idea is beginning to present some pretty exciting ideas to me.

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Old 07-19-2003, 08:31 AM
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This panel has no foam, covered with one big piece of material, instead of separate foamed pieces. Sometime this process will use less material...
Willys door panel

Same appoach on this headliner
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The purple leather center section of this door panel has no foam.
Purple door

The center portions of these door panels here are created without foam. I use a combination of no foam and foamed areas on my panels. This design takes the roll and pleat design and gives it a new twist with some very crisp lines.
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:14 AM
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THANKS, Shawn! Those are sweet examples!

How are they attached? Seems to me you glued them onto the door? I mean, without foam or anything, you can't use clips (they'd show thru) right? Also, how and where is the headliner attached? Man! That's a nice design!

PS - Are those all 1/8" panels?

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Old 07-19-2003, 06:00 PM
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1/8" thick panels are used for the designs.

The door panels have clips, they are just installed in a way i came up with in which they wont show through.

And for the headliner, dont wanna sound like a jerk, but the headliner is installed in a way that i designed and i dont want to just give it away. Its not rocket science, and other upholsterers might be doing the same thing, but its something I came up with after doing interiors for a couple years. Its not really a complex thing once you figure out how its done.
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:51 PM
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LOL! Thanks, bro' ... I'll let you know when I figure it out.


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Hey Krist-

That was a lot of help, man, you should write all of that up in a knowledge base article.
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I had a customer tell me that I should write a book, but that has already been done, a few times.
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One problem with the closed cell is that you will see the panel clips because there is not enough cushion to hide them. The pro shops will use cowl board(a thinner type cardboard) fot glueing the foam to and then there is another panel cut the exact asame size that has the panel clip holes punched in it. The top cowl board panel is fully upholstered except for glueing and wrapping the outside edge. Once the top cardoard is all upholstered it it glued over the top of the back board and then the outer edge is wrapped around to the back. Now when you install the clips they are fully concealed. A good trick is to use your 6" grinder and run it along the edge od the foam at a 45 degree angle then when you wrap the material it shows a cool bevel all the way around
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Old 08-24-2004, 05:10 PM
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Thats exactly how i conceal my fasteners...
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