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Old 06-15-2004, 07:52 PM
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Cutless/Full Monte Frame

Hey Guys I got a 84' Cutless Body sitting in the yard,(doo doo brown),
but I really want a Full Monte to restore.

Are the Frames for both "Identicle"?

In other words can I put a 81-88' Monte Carlo Body on
my Cutless Frame "WITHOUT MAJOR COMPLICATIONS"?

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Old 06-17-2004, 09:48 PM
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There both G bodies so I don`t see why not, but, are you sure you want to go through all that work when you could just find a monte body?
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Old 06-17-2004, 11:06 PM
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Full Monte's are SUPER SCARCE around here,

Got one on ya?
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Think you could provide me with wheelbase and hub to hub measurements of your G Body car chassis?
I'm looking at the option of using one for a chassis for my '34 Olds sedan. I would appreciate it..I could see if the swap is even a possiblilty.



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WILL DO BRO,will do!

I have to scarf down some lunch,& get some running done,but I will measure it all out before dark,& get back to you on it,(here) this evening.

Barring i don't keel over dead between now,& then.

On the Hub measurement's are you talking inside,Or out?

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Old 06-18-2004, 01:43 PM
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Full Monte's are SUPER SCARCE around here,
Check out www.ebaymotors.com or come to where I live they are all over the place.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:36 PM
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Hub from outside to outside. Will see if it will fit between the fenders.

Much appreciate the specs.
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Old 06-18-2004, 03:38 PM
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Huckster,

Got um.

The Wheelbase is 107 1/4",(8' 11.25").

Hub to Hub is 58 1/2",(4' 10.5").

The hub to hub measurements are from the rear of the car,
both drums mounted (no wheels).

The front will be considerably harder to determine,
because of the Lay-Out of the suspension.

If the front & rear are the same,(i don't see any reason they would'nt be) then just add on 2 7/8" for each Hub,(i measured them as well) & your there.

Hope this helps you out!

Ghetto Jet,

I'll get back at you this evening,gotta spend some time with the kids,
so they don't forget who I am!!
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Old 06-18-2004, 08:48 PM
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Ghetto Jet,

Yeah, that sounds good to me.
So am I staying at you place while i hunt down the Monte right?

Mighty Hospitable of you.

Sure hope you don't snore to terribly LOUD!
If you do at least let me get to sleep first before you start sawing logs O.K.?

Lets see... I have to be in bed by 2:00am,& I prefer to have a tooth brush of my own.

I like "Caffeine Free" Pepsi,& Tea,(Lipton is Best) Marlboro Reds,or Backwoods
Cigars "Honey Berry",& "Wild Rum" will do.

I will need either a Silk,or Satin Pillowcase,& someone to Pop my Toes.

That covers the most important things,
oh yeah judging by your handle I have to ask,should I be Packing?

Get back with me on the going rate for Full Monte's in your area,
& as soon as I have all the Money Saved up I will get back to you for Directions.

Latter,
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Stick'n it, I'm almost 100% sure you can do what you want with that frame. Try searching G-body info, I know there are some great sites with some great info specific to those cars.
Btw- I'm a Cutlass guy myself, don't know why I prefer cutlii body lines to montes but their almost sisters anyways.
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Old 06-19-2004, 02:37 AM
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mrevil,

The Cutlass,is a sharp Car DON'T GET ME WRONG,
it's simply like you said it comes down to a preference.

I think allot of why I like the Full Monte so much is because,
it's more reminiscent of the older 70's GM's.

We had a 72' Gram Prix with the BIG 455 in it,
It was the Med/Dark Blue with a White Vinyl top,&
Interior including WAY COOL Swivel Seats.When I was a teen.
(yes it even had a factory 8track)

It was in terrific shape & although it did'nt look brand spankin new I was SUPER SLICK!

I was no where near 16,but I wanted that car so bad I could taste it.
My mom was scared to death that I would go flying off the road,(airborne)
& lodge it in a tree top catapulting myself through the windshield,
or a 100 other scenarios of the like.

So she made my dad get rid of it for the soul purpose of keeping me out of it when I came of age.

They sold it to my aunt's currant husband,(at the time) & it was Trashed
within a matter of months.We would go out to my aunts house from time to time so I was forced to watch the once Beautiful car progressively go down hill.

Finally to the Point of being Parked,& left to fade away.One of my last memories of the old Gram Prix was seeing it covered in rust with the wheels buried deep into the ground,due to the soil softening twice a year,& the earthworms steadily working up underneath it over the years.

You know it's probably silly to care so much for an inadimate object that can't return it,but GOD help me I LOVE'D THAT OLD CAR.

I believe allot of that Feeling of strong Connection for a particular car is due to all the memories that somehow become housed inside that Metal Skin.

My dad drove that old car,& i sat in the seat beside him while he did.
It didn't feel the same when anyone else drove it,(even my mom) although I still rode in the same place.I Loved him more than I knew then,& that Love transfered to the car,I guess.

For me the Full Monte reminds me of that Old Gram Prix.
Maybe it's the way the contours run down the Length of the Body,the way the front end is Squared off,or who knows what else.Whatever it is it reminds me of it.

Chevy's are for the common man,(accept for the vette) & In some strange way the 81'-88' Monte's embody the older GM Bodies,(the ones i grew up with) as a whole in my minds eye.

GM's are all we ever had,there all I will ever want.
I like them all,Chevy's,Buick's,Old's,Pontiac's etc... but if I could build only one car I would build a Full Monte with a 4something in it.

LORD WILLING I LIVE,that is exactly what I'm going to do.

To this day I still wish I had that old car.

Thanks for the advice.

P.S. When I do get it built,my son will ride in the seat beside me.

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Thanks for the measurements. Too short and too narrow .
Could still be modified....will keep it in mind.
Much appreciate you taking the time, thanks.
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I love the box car G-body. Here in N.Y. ,there are a ****load of monte ss's around here but very few cutlass bodies. I went with a 84 cutlass that my bro had in his garage for 8 months. Bought it for 300$ and ripped out the poor ol' 6 cyl. The body lines are more square on the cutass and look much sharper then the little roundness on the rear fenders on the monte. The cutlass nose has got to be one of the most good looking ones out there . Just don't hit any birds cause the grills (especially the straight lined ones are hard to find.Mine looks like the ultimate sleeper with basic chevy steel rally rims w/ beauty rings and center hub.Much rather have something diff. then just to be another monte in the herd--IMO. The only downfall is the color-- royal light blue.
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Wow dude, you sound like me a while back. See, I had an '81 Olds Calais a few years ago. First car I bought myself when I got my business going.It wasn't much,$1500.00 can and needing work, a lovely Canadian Chev 267 in her but I loved driving this car. Long story short, I was not as mechanically inclined at the time(not that I am now either-but I've done my homework) and my fiance and I had baby on the way so I convinced myself to sell it ($800.00) and get a lease on a '96 Jimmy. OOOps, I missed the car almost immediately and I think it's because so many things were wrapped up in her, Business, Wife, Children. Anyways I've spent the last six years trying to find and earn enough to buy a similar car.Just got one last week. So don't worry, if you have the dream, it will come in time. In the meantime do as much research as you can cause I've learned tons(almost toomuch) from people on boards like this with similar interests.
Good luck with the build man.
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Actually it was a 71'
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