I have used Evapo-rust with good results but it is slow, you must keep the area wet with it and the manufacturer even recommends flooding the parts but it does work quite well. I have also found some of the Phosphoric acid products, some of which are sold as converters, to work quite well at removing rust and these seem to work faster. They do not need to be neutralized because they wash off easily with water as long as it is done while the solution is still wet.
Willys, I think this fella is asking about how to get rid of rust instead of converting it since that is what the products he asked about are for, also it looks as if he has been here for quite sometime so he is probably aware of the controversy. I certainly understand your concern about someone asking about rust and I too hope this thread does not get off to a bad start.