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Old 12-23-2002, 01:23 PM
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so I put in a new set of points and a condensor---and now the car wont start--it cranks but it just doesnt kick in--it just cranks thats it--before it was working fine--so whats wrong?--

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Old 12-23-2002, 01:28 PM
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The ahh electron protonanator isn't connecting to your protonwarphole which is casuing the flux capacitor to lose all it's energy... now to regain this engery connect the hypagigaoverdrive proton acellerator to the junipanarian inverse connection to the super gigmeganet transistor....

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(sorry guys I just had to do this sometime.. now it's out of my system)
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First..Make sure the points are gapped correctly
Second...Make sure the condensor is fastened correctly
THird...Make sure the coil wire is on
Fourth..Make sure the cap is seated correctly
Fifth...Make sure the distributor wire is not grounding out on the coil.
Other than that it should fire.

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Old 12-23-2002, 01:54 PM
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hey kevin--im an idiot--i just realized i tried cranking it with out the rotor in..... so know i put it back in and it still wont start--how do i check the points properly--i have a feeler guage but im not sure where i feel--ha--im not used to points---anyway i need help--could i have messed up something trying to crank it without the rotor?
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Bummer. That was going to be my recommendation; be sure you put the rotor in!
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Old 12-23-2002, 07:32 PM
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hey rustyrazer ; did you make sure you were on the high lobe of the dist. if not make sure you are and then set the points, good luck doc. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Old 12-23-2002, 08:06 PM
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ok im new to points how do i get on the high lobe of the distributor--does anyone have a site thats has pics of how to set points--im lost
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No matter how sentimental I get about old machinery, I just have to admit that messing with points is just not worth it. I had a Ford 390 to tune up at the shop, and I bought a brand new set of Blue Streak points, that sucker WOULD NOT START, the damn points looked fine, but they would not work properly. I bought a Pertronix ignitor electronic conversion, it was so easy to put in, and VOILA, it fired right up.
It's cheaper in the long run to buy one 75.00, vs buying decent quality points at 15.00 bucks a set, and having to fiddle with them all of the time. Points belong in your desk drawer to show you grandkids someday as they drive around in their hydrogen fuel cells.
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Old 12-23-2002, 08:33 PM
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narib thanks for the help
i dont have the bucks for pertronix
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Well, if that's the case, if you have your gap set in the ballpark, and your wired up right, if it still won't start, don't assume your new points are good. Also make sure you are getting enough voltage to your coil when you are cranking the engine. Alot of systems cut the voltage down to around 6 volts at the coil, but another wire {usually from the starter} will apply 12 volts to it while you are cranking, so your starter won't zap all of the juice to the point you can't light the plugs, once it starts, it will run on 6 volts. Some systems use a resistor wire, some use a ballast resistor, while others have a coil that uses the full 12 volts.
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Have someone bump the engine until you have the rubbing block on the points on one of the corners of the point cam. Set your points initially at about .019", that should get it started, I used to use the back of a matchbook cover as a rough guage. Once you get it running, you can get a dwell meter, and adjust the point dwell according to a book, or just adjust them until it sounds good to your ears.
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so i am gonna go at it tomorrow --christmass eve that should make the family happy--anyway how do i check for spark whats that ol trick where you take the plug out to check or you take the wire off the coil--i just want to see if my engine has spark--anyway the way my points are right now they are just resting on the points cam just like the old one was--im sorta lost crap am i in over my little head
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Disconnect the wire from the plug. Holding the exposed wire close to the plug, turn over the engine. If you see spark, you got spark, if you don't, well, you don't.
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To get the points open to the high lobe of the distributor, loosen the distributor holdown and turn the distributor. You will see the points open or try to at the hight point. If the points don't open adjust them till they do using a feeler gage to the correct setting, I think It's like .0016-.0022 or something like that? Do you have an old match book, the cover is very close to the correct setting. It has been a while. I have two duel point distributors. When I set them up I pull the distributor out of the engine and set the points.

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so the thing starts now--i fixed it merry christmass to me--i just put it on the high lobe of the dist and i reconnected all the iwres now its good to go--the thing runs a bit quicker now--i think the mighty bird can do the quarter in about 40 seconds now--hahah
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