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Dash mount trurn indicator system for antique vehicles

I'm doing a semi-restore (with lots of upgrades) to a '32 Chevy. I'm looking for a turn signal controller that is dash mounted so I can keep the steering column free from clutter. Any ideas or suggestions of where to look?
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you still need a lever ,but i put left & right green leds and a red one for brakes to let me know they are working.
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simple

Awhile back I did some drawings for a poster with a similar issue. This is electrically very simple and uses commonly available switches and/or relays.
This does not have a self-cancelling feature.
See attached. One drawing uses (2) switches. one for the left side and one for the right side.
The other drawing uses a single switch that controls relays.
Pick your poison.

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Here is one I drew up for somebody......

I used a single electronic flasher, nothing special just one that was listed for a 67 Camaro.

I had to use a ON-OFF-ON toggle (DPDT), I couldn't get it to work without it because I needed to turn off the brake circuit when the turn signal was on.
I used a ON-OFF toggle (SPST) for the hazards
I used bosh style 5 pole relays (six total),there better relays for this app, but I used bosh style due to availability. I used some smaller ones that I salvaged from a dodge Dakota. All 6 relays taped together measure 1 ¾” by 1 ¾”
I assumed the brake switch would provide a +12v

How it works……..
Step on the brake (no turn sig) pwr is fed from the brake light switch to the 87a (NC) terminal on Relays 1a and 1b, out thru terminal 30 (Comm) into to the 87a (NC) terminal on Relays 2a and 2b, out thru terminal 30 (Comm) to the rear turn/stop lights……. None of the relays are energized.

Activate left or right turn signal (no brake light) intermittent pwr is fed from the single electronic flasher, thru the turn sig switch to the 87a (NC) terminal on Relay 3a or 3b, (depending Left or Right) and out thru terminal 30 (Comm), front turn light is also connected to terminal 30…… at the same time terminal 30 (Comm) provides power to the 87 (NO) and 86 (Coil) terminal on Relay 2a. Relay 2a activates and sends pwr thru terminal 30 (Comm) to the rear turn/stop light…… both front and rear turn bulbs light and flash….. due to the flasher. At the same time constant pwr is fed from a +12 volt source , thru the turn sig switch to the 86 (Coil) terminal on Relay 1a or 1b, the relay activates and disconnects terminal 30 (Comm).

Activate left or right turn signal and step on the brake….. basically the same as the turn, but when the relay 1a or 1b, activates and disconnects terminal 30 (Comm), which is the brake light feed, the brake light cannot illuminate….. hence the turn signal continues to flash, while the other side brake feed relay is not energized and the brake feed is still connected and the brake light remains on.
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Dash Mount turn indicator system for antique vehicle

Thank you for sharing your information with me about turn signal control for my old "32 Chevy. All of this is a help and that is why I come to this Forum when I have a question. As I progress I'll share with you what and how I proceed.
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Column switch

It might be easier to buy one of the old style universal steering column conversion switches off e bay and wire it up and just have it mounted behind the dash or back under with the end of the handle sticking out.
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It might be easier to buy one of the old style universal steering column conversion switches off e bay and wire it up and just have it mounted behind the dash or back under with the end of the handle sticking out.
one of my friends has a 32 roadster pu with a universal indicator switch mounted under the seat
the handle sticks out an inch.
easy to reach down and flip it, also easy to leave on and drive for miles with blinkers going
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60-61 Chrysler products had a dash mount turn signal switch

Is that what you were looking for??
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Dash mount turn indicator system for antique vehicles

Thank you for this. It looks like one I'll really consider.
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Hello Highball,

Here is a link to some Ron Francis accessories:
Turn Signal Switches & Accessories-Ron Francis Wiring
You will see that the signal switches are a "push on", "push off" style that can be mounted anywhere.
Hope this helps.

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turn signal switch

Highball, I'm using the Ron Francis toggle switch setup. Works slick but you do have to remember to turn it off. You'll need some indicator lights like I have in the little panel under the dash in the first pic. I agree about the clutter on the steering column.
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Wingman9. that looks sweet! I'm thing about doing the same thing on my Model A. I like how clean your's looks.
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Using the electronic flashers is a good idea as they make a loud clicking when they are flashing. Helps you to not leave them running. Just a thought.
EOD guys turn relay setup checks out . It should work well. Pretty well thought out logic circuit EOD guy.
Should make enough clicking to let the driver know it is running. LOL
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My system is in two vehicles that I know off, the most appealing aspect is it's very small and uses junkyard relays, with all relays being the same they are easily replaceable.
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I like it. I have two '48 Indian Chief marker lamps that are NIB and I did convert them to a 12 v LED amber lamp setup. With the power to them they do get some attention. I'm using the stock '32 Chevy tail lamp housings with LED's in them also. But yep, that maybe what I decide on. I'm one who likes to work with innovators and there are many out there on this forum. Thank you.
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