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no technical merit? We are now censoring based on waht someone deems as merit?

Am I the only one that finds a problem with that? I can take cutting out profanity, but "technial merit"?
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For the horsepower you want start with a dart block.Stocker will not take it long trust been there done that got the tee shirt.Solid roller is a must, good heads such as afr 220(just an example many others out there).Plan on paying for cnc porting, at least 14 to 1 squeeze, lotta rpm. You would prabably be better off to build for 500 hp and add Mr. Frosty in the correct proportions.
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thats funny cause I am friends with 2 people who have been racing for near 30 years and run 383s that they pulled out of late 60s and early 70s vehicles and modified them and are putting out more than I am looking for (running 8s ) and btw this is street and strip
I will throw $.02 in here and leave. If you have two friends doing it...why do you need a build template?
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I will throw $.02 in here and leave. If you have two friends doing it...why do you need a build template?

best point so far.

You should get an Oscar or a Golden Globe or something for that insight.



Seriously, that's a great point. Just ask your friends for their build sheets- its so obvious.
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no technical merit? We are now censoring based on waht someone deems as merit?

Am I the only one that finds a problem with that? I can take cutting out profanity, but "technial merit"?
In a word, yes. That's what we do, and there's no argument that what you posted was sarcasm and degrading. You call it censoring, I call it editing.
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The reason I don't duplicate there motor is because I'm not trying to build the same thign my friend built... Wanna make it my own, if we copied what other people did and don't make our own design we would still be driving model Ts...

barnym17 thanks for the first piece of useful information out of this forum
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not really trying to get into nitrous on this project
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The reason I don't duplicate there motor is because I'm not trying to build the same thign my friend built... Wanna make it my own, if we copied what other people did and don't make our own design we would still be driving model Ts...

barnym17 thanks for the first piece of useful information out of this forum
I couldn't resist...So you are here to copy a member of this forums build.
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How "big" of a compression ratio do you want? In an earlier post you said you want this to be a street and strip project. At 700 hp you're going to be using up a lot of race fuel just to drive it on the street. If you go with a 496, maybe even a 540, and build it right you might just be able to hit that target on pump gas. That would be very cool.

Also, I don't think anybody is suggesting you copy your friends. Just that if your friend has what you say he has then he clearly knows what he is doing and should be able to give you real world, hands on advice in your project. That is much more than you can get from just about any anonymous person over the internet.
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this is a crazy thread, i seriously dont think that anyone would spend the kind of money it takes to build a "funny car" and then go and put a oem gm block in it, to build a 383 producing 700hp NA, you're gonna spend 20K+ on the motor alone. Iam sorry but i dont believe the poster for a second, he either doesn't know what he talking about or doesn't really know what his friends have into their car (my bet is the second)

you will need a DART little M block, and since you would need this block why not go with a 434 instead or better yet a BBC, a serious crank like a callies dragon slayer, callies magnum, howard pro seires, scat light weight, or high end crower. some howards power forged or ultimate duty rods. some JE, manley, possible ross pistons, you will likely end up spending 4k or so for a set of heads, possibly more for extra machine work, you will likely need shaft mount rockers, you will have to spair no expense on your valvetrain, you may need to look into a fabricated intake. you'll need this motor to turn 8k-9krpm.

you will spend less money on building a BBC
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for those of you who dont believe cam383aro, i have seen a naturally aspirated 383 stroker run a car into the high 8s, its all aluminum dart block, cnc ported dart heads, .650 solid roller cam, cnc ported dart intake, ect. its pushing 15:1 comp, its a 93 firebird with a tube chassis, 4-link rear, full fiberglass body, narrowed dana 60 with 5.-- (forget the exact number) spooled rear with 32x14 inch goodyear eagle slicks. anything else you wanna know let ask me

and btw it doesnt run 8s everyday. its usually a very low 9 second car
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That is great for you and congratulations....but that wasn't the point we were ALL trying to tell the OP. You have a DART ALUMINUM BLOCK, he thinks he can do the same thing with a stock OEM block. We were advising him that he should go with an aftermarket block, like you did...thats all.
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this is the car i'm talking about the only thing i was mistaken on was the type of block used...
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