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Old 01-02-2003, 12:08 PM
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Did that get you attention? I need to know if any of you have heard of, or delt with a gent Named Lanre Usman from Lagos, Nigeria, West Africa?
Have any of you heard of a shipping company named Pacific Ocean Air Liners? When i sort this all out i`ll explain it to you all. Please respond asap.
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DANGER my friend!!!!
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Old 01-02-2003, 12:30 PM
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West Africans exspecially nigerians and ivory coast folk are a bit of shady folk. Some arn't but very few. Smart, but shady folk. Little tip if your dealing with them learn their language it helps, the most widely used is Hausa. Keep any numbers held close read carefully and leave your wallet home.

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Old 01-02-2003, 12:31 PM
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Delete the email and what ever you do DONT and I mean DONT give him your checking account number.

Now you can give him your ex wifes or someone else you dont like!
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Slider...this ain't sounding good. I hope you didn't lose any money to this guy. Is this the one you are selling the truck to? If so make sure you get every dime first and let him make all the arrangements. Also when you see all my postings edited it is usually from fat fingers!!! LOL!!!!!

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Old 01-02-2003, 12:49 PM
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Oh yeah you sold you car to someone over there.
I keep getting emails from Nigera wanting a checing accout number to transfer millions of dollars to american fund and pay me 10 percent. Thats what I thought you were refering to.
Whats the whole story?
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O.K. so far no money has changed hands. I have contacted the Secret service, who have requested the e-mails he sent. I don`t want to loose the deal , but would never take a chance with my money. I have to little of it.

He has offered to have his Amercian client send me a certified check via fedx. The check is for $6,800.00. I am only asking $2,400.00 for the car. The balance i am to send to him Western Union, and he pays the cost. He has also made all the arrangements for shipping. Including having it picked up at my house. I can find no phone number for "Pacific Ocean Air liners"
I am concerned because i don`t know anyone that would trust an unknown person with $4,400.00 of their money.Although i will send his money to him, after i clear his check. I don`t see how i can get hurt with a certified check, and he has not ask for any of my bank information.Of course the check is not here yet! MY hope is that this is indeed an honest person, and a good deal for both of us. Thank you all for your advise. So far nothing lost. I will keep you updated and informed.
Looking for specific info on this buyer. Anyone have any history on him?
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Old 01-02-2003, 01:04 PM
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I got one similar to that too Mav. They gave me a sob story about needing to get money out of the country and giving me part etc. etc. I figured one of two things: it's a con to get money, or it's Al Quaida trying to hide/move money. Probably the first. I contacted the local Sheriffs dept. and they said contact tne F.B.I. About then a virus got my computer so I didn't have anything to show them. So I didn't waste my time.
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Old 01-02-2003, 01:17 PM
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Maverick, 38, the e-mails you speak of are actually called a 411. Thats a criminal code in nigeria and what the US government reffers to the e-mails/scams. Millions of dollers are lost each year to these people. Thats why I refer to them as being incredibly smart considering they actually get rich off of this scam because everyoes ready for the easy money and not willing to look into the facts they present and the papers they send. In reality ssome actually may be legit. The nigerian and ivory coast governments are loose with govermental funds and a person could very well imbezzle millions of dollers right out of the country. This is why the nigerian government has spent so much money in advertising these 411's because they could potentially loose millions of dollers even if 99% are frauds that 1% could potentially yeild devastating fund depletion in that country resulting in thousands of goverment fat cats not getting their tea and mid day massages and loosing their harem of women.

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Old 01-02-2003, 01:19 PM
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I sent mine to the States Att. generals office. I get one usually once a month from differant email address with same story just a little differant. I heard a story were a bookkeeper got the email and belived it and gave them her companies bank acct number and they wiped them out of 100's of thousands of dollars. Guess you send out enough all you need is one or two suckers!
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So guys you are telling me to wait for the "REST of the story"? So far no one has asked for any bank info. And they won`t get any either!!! If this is a scam, i hope everyone here reads about it here. I would not want to be part of a money laundering scam/ rip off, or help in funding terrisom in any way. It was hard for me to call the seceret service. You see i love my country very much, but after my dealing with our gorvernment, i do not trust them to do the right thing.
In the end if this is a good deal,(legal) it`s great. If we head off a scam it`s great. If we inform our friends on here to look out for this ,it`s great. Thank you all!
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So H.K. , can you run down how this works? How do they make money by sending me a certified check for $6,800.00 allowing me to take my $2,400.00 and sending on the balance of $4,400.00? Does the money send Western Union get paid in US funds? Is U.S. money worth more there?
There is no way i would have, or will give them banking information.So is that the deal? They hope to get me hooked enough to get my info out of me? It is sad that things like this happen. I still hope it is not a scam. I want Mr Lanre Usman to be real, not because i need the money, but because, it would pee me off to have that kinda stuff goin on here on our site. I guess i just want things to be above reproch on here. Dreamer huh? But, i want everyone to know about it. Can you explain the working of it to us? Thanks
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SLIDER DON'T DO IT. DON'T GET INVOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read of a simular story to this about 2 months ago.From what I gather,even after your bank cashes the check YOU are still responsable if the check doesn't clear.The bank had told this person that it would take 24 hours for the check to clear then everything would be fine.
This was not the case .It actually takes over a week for the funds to be transfered form bank to bank.Even though the bank here assured this person that 24 hours would be enough ,they still told him that he was responsable for the bad check after a week had passed and it was determined that the funds did not exist.I herer this is a common scam.So RUN LIKE HELL.
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Slider...what HK and Mav are talking about is different than what you are doing or going to do. With the other they want your account info then they'll bleed you. Yours might be on the up and up but until the checl clears don't do anything. Also DOCUMENT EVERY PIECE OF PAPER AND KEEP EVERY E-MAIL. Make duplicates of everything and back up the copies of e-mails to your computer somewhere. Write down the dates of any phone conversations you may have and a note beside it what it pertained to. Like I said it may be a legit deal and I wish the best for you.

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My wife use to work for a bank. If you take the check to the bank or branch office of the bank it was drawn on they can tell you if there are enough funds in that account to cover it.
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