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Old 12-24-2005, 04:22 PM
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Diagnostic tools

I have been looking at scan tools for a while now and was wondering what some of the shops are using and what your opinion of them is. I have researched the OTC Genysis quite a bit and would like to hear some first hand experience with them. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.


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Old 12-24-2005, 05:40 PM
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100 percent snapon modus not sure of the spelling handles everything up to obd2 systems capable of wireless link to any laptop or personal computer windows based os and even some ecu reprogramming is possible, used to have the snap on scan tool then upgraded to the modus wouldnt change if i could, now be prepared to lose a couple pounde in the back pocket but 100% worth it
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:46 AM
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Nope im going against that. I find the modus complicated to use and its a windows based program. It does however have more features. Just figuring them out sucks.

Im all about the gennisses i love that thing its easy to use and quick. And you can get live data on whats going on. You can on the ,modus as well i just dont like the complication to use it. The gennissis also has limited reflashing capabilites and i bleive the new ones have a PC link option.

Im all about plug it in and tell me whats wrong i dont like going through a hundred sub menus to find one thing

thats just IMO though.
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:31 AM
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I'd go with OTC.. many of the others just use them to make their scanners and such.. I know mac does.. i called tech support and guess what... i got otc..lol.. but it's nice.. if your looking for a OTC scanner pm me I might be able to get you a good price on one.. I have a connection and might be able to get ya a good price.. just let me know what part number.... i'm also curious to see how good of a deal I can get also..lol...
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yes i can agree to that i did find it took a good 3 or four times for basic trouble shooting to get the hang of it but snap on also offers a class with the modus rather cheaply the feature prove themself useful if you have the patience to learn it
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:16 AM
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I was looking at the 3454/abs. I work for a road construction company that owns a napa store and i can get either 20 or 25% off. I havent priced them yet because i wanted to figure out what to go with first. I think otc makes matcos scan tools also.
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Old 12-25-2005, 07:36 PM
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I had the opprotunity to use the Genysis and the MODUS at the same time, in order to evaluate them for a previous boss. The MODUS is a better tool, based on capability and for onboard technical information. They both are able to display live data, the Genisys a little better than the MODUS, and they both have a lab scope to read raw highspeed signals. The Genisys is affordable, and I mean the MODUS is almost 9 thousand while a comprable Genisys is 4 thousand. If money is not an option, go for the MODUS, but if I had to purchase it for my own use, I would own the Genisys becasue I already know the troubleshooting procedures and known good signal readings listed in the MODUS. I also know that a baseline Genysis can be had, without scope or Gas machine, for $1,500 plus shipping. I would go for the Genisys.
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It all depends on what cars you work on. I have a old OTC 4000 Enhanced, a OTC Genisys, and a Master Tech, out of these I use the Master tech the most fallowed by the Genisys. I had the Modus for about 3 months and did not like it. I would say for the money the OTC Genisys is the best way to go. As far a reprogramming many companies are offering pass through tools that work well. Are you doing these repairs on a pro level or just at home? If at home Matco makes a very capable tool thats around $1000.00 or so. I can get the name of it if you would like. Hope this helps

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Hi Steve, all of my repairs will be done at home. Here are some of the vehicles it will be used for. 99 ford ranger, 98 explorer, 92 mustang, 99 cavaleir, 94 chevy pickup and 97 blazer. I would appreciate information on the matco tool. If i go with an OTC Genisys will the 3454 classic be more than enuff for home use? Thanks for your help.

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Old 12-31-2005, 11:19 AM
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I copied this from a website to a Genisys 3454. Take a look at the listed software, and see if it fits your needs. I was wrong about the price in my previous post.
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Genisys 3454 Offers an excellent value for technicians and shops who dont need the extra speed available in the latest generation Genisys 3484. 128 MB of Memory (upgradeable to 512 MB for Infotech).Deluxe Kit Includes: Comes with Pathfinder Software '02 installed, Asian Import 2003, and 02 ABS/Airbag Software loaded. Includes manuals, interactive training CD, adapters and domestic vehicle cables (GM, Ford, Chrysler, Jeep, Saturn), OBD-II and carrying case. Included 02 ABS/Airbag Starter Kit comes with ABS vehicles specific cables. (Asian Import OBD-I cables not included - order Kit #3421-45). See Genisys 3454EU for kit with European Software.Also includes: Mail-in coupon for Pathfinder 04 included with purchase. Mail-In coupon for ABS/AirBag 2004 software included with purchase. Mail-In coupon for one free KAL automotive diagnosic tool.


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$3,548.00
$1,099.00
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i had a crappy old auto xray scanner. cost me around $100. used it an arse load on an old taurus. it read the same codes and monitered the same data as the snap on jobbie the shop has. only an arse load less cost. if it's for home use, I'd look into it. keep in mind, auto xray makes a code reader, and a scan tool. the code reader is only that. the scan tool moniters real time functions, can record the prior so-many seconds after you have pushed the record botton, etc etc.bla bla bla....... like i said, if it's for personal use, i'd check it out. if it was my job, i'd use the stuff.

btw, sold the car, no longer needed the scanner. sold it for more than what i paid for it on evilbay.
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Sorry 92 I haven't seen my Matco dealer over the Holidays. I will see him this Friday.

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Thanks for your help Steve. I searched Matco website and couldn't find anything. I thought they used to have what looked like a genisys on their site but with a different name.

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92, just got off the Matco tool truck and found out some info for you. The reason it was not on their (matcotools.com) web site is because they upgraded it to the next model, and of course with upgrade comes price increase. This will get you to matcotools.com and from there just enter in the product search area this part# MD1005.
I used this tool for about 2 weeks and it was a nice tool for the price. I still suggest that you buy what you want and need. Good luck and I hope this helps.

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Old 01-11-2006, 11:37 AM
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I got an AutoXray one for under $150.00
It gives you the code and a text message telling what the code is.
I really like it. Fits most everything with an OBD2 system.
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