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Old 11-16-2006, 06:22 AM
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Diamont Base?

I am getting ready to shoot cortez silver on a '69 camaro. I am going to use SPI primers and clear. This is my first metallic job and I want to eliminate as many problems as I can. I am thinking of using DIAMONT base, I talked to BarryK and it was not one the he recommended to me. The Debeers and Spies are not available in my area. What do you guys think of DIAMONT compared to the top brands?
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p.s. If you have not talked with BarryK he is truly a man that is living his passion! What a great guy to talk with and very helpful!

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I have not used Diamont, but they used it in the last shop that I worked at. They loved it there.

I don't know of anyone in my area that carries either Spies or Debeers either.

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Old 11-16-2006, 06:02 PM
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good body work

Diamont is a VERY aggressive paint we use dupont here at the garage and love it. The Experience I have had with Diamont is mixed. It is good paint but if you don't have your bodywork PERFECT and if you don't give your urethane primer PLENTY of set up time it will pull scratches like you wouldn't believe.
****Definitly Use a 2 part Urethane Primer****
As far a durability it seems good never had any returns on it. But it is not a Paint I would recommend to a first timer not sure how much paint and body experience you have. Diamont is a Polyester Based Paint that smells a little funny so if it doesn't smell right to you it isn't that it is old it's just weird. If your supplier carries only RM Brands the Limco Supreme is a little cheaper and A Lot Less aggressive Paint that we have used on a lot of cars and it seem to hold up just fine.

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I"ve used limco and Diamont..
one think you should find with Diamont is that it will have excellent metallic control.. It's known for that.
I've personally never had any problems with it causing problems showing body work or being aggressive.. But that's just me..

Also limco is a cheaper line.. I probably wouldn't use it again, but it did the job I was looking for it to do at the time. So i'd just consider what your goal is with what you are painting.. if it's going to be a show piece i'd go with diamont, if it's going to be a beater use limco..

Also from what I remember the color match on limco wasn't the best. so take that into consideration, and if you go with limco buy a little extra in case you need it later.
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I"ve used limco and Diamont..
one think you should find with Diamont is that it will have excellent metallic control.. It's known for that.
I've personally never had any problems with it causing problems showing body work or being aggressive.. But that's just me..

Also limco is a cheaper line.. I probably wouldn't use it again, but it did the job I was looking for it to do at the time. So i'd just consider what your goal is with what you are painting.. if it's going to be a show piece i'd go with diamont, if it's going to be a beater use limco..

Also from what I remember the color match on limco wasn't the best. so take that into consideration, and if you go with limco buy a little extra in case you need it later.
Well I guess you have to keep in mind I am an airbrush artist and not a body guy LOL. The word Diamont gives me nightmares. There are several shops here in zanesville that swear by it. I guess it is just what your used to ya' know.
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well if i tried it now it might be a different story as it's been so long, and I have learned so much since then, but I have never tried it for air-brushing, and that it a whole nother topic there. so that could explain some things..
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All I use is Diamont if SPI does not have the color I need and have never had a problem. I use SPI reducer with the Diamont and SPI Clear the next day.
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I don't know of "anybody" airbrush wise that uses it for AB work. Several use it for completes or large graphics but most of the "known" AB painters use PPG or HOK. SPI is coming along with their base colors and I'll be using them some myself but for now it's mostly HOK or Chromabase cause I get it locally.
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Go with the dupont

base. Ive never used spi base but there clears and epoxies are great.Mike
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Oh thank heavens for Spiez. That's what I use for my airbrush work. The wide-open window for re-coating is what I like.
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Oh thank heavens for Spiez. That's what I use for my airbrush work. The wide-open window for re-coating is what I like.
wide-open window? Sorry if I sound a little stupid but do you mean there is a paint line out there that doesn't have a 8-12 hr window for clear?
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Yes, there is! Spiez Hecker & Herbert Standox both have open windows!
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