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Old 01-09-2014, 09:17 AM
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Whats your opinion on BASF Diamont bc/cc paint?
Car is in body shop and went to paint supplier to
select color. Painter likes PPG and also uses
H of K. When talking to supplier he said he had been trying to get the painter to start using this paint. As luck would have it the color my wife likes is in the Diamont line. The supplier also sells PPG and H of K. The supplier also feels like it is as good any other brand he sells.
HK or Willys? What do you think? I am NOT a body person and need some sound advice.Thanks!
After painting for over 45 years, I have spent long terms with Dupont, PPG, and many other systems. R-M has been the most reliable system I have found. I guarantee my work for as long as you own it, so I am picky about dependability.

For the last 12-15 years I have used R-M production colors and DC92 clear. For custom work I use HOK and Xotic Colours, used along side the R-M products, with no issues. R-M gets my vote.

I recently had a minor issue with the clear, but changing my between-coat times has resolved it. I explored other products, and if I ever had to use another clear I will go SPI Universal Clear over the R-M production colors.
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What are you using now? Do you like diamont?
I'm thinking I should just suck it up and buy Glasurit
But ouch
I love Diamont!
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After painting for over 45 years, I have spent long terms with Dupont, PPG, and many other systems. R-M has been the most reliable system I have found. I guarantee my work for as long as you own it, so I am picky about dependability.

For the last 12-15 years I have used R-M production colors and DC92 clear. For custom work I use HOK and Xotic Colours, used along side the R-M products, with no issues. R-M gets my vote.

I recently had a minor issue with the clear, but changing my between-coat times has resolved it. I explored other products, and if I ever had to use another clear I will go SPI Universal Clear over the R-M production colors.

So here's my question And here's what I need the paint code is GY15P it's called samba green pearl or fiesta green pearl it's a stock color off a 90-93 honda del soul.
The color is transparent. So if you would just tell me how you would paint this 1970 nova it would be great.
I'm new to this who is rm? So would you buy rm base and everything else from spi
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You will need a colored basecoat or sealer under your pearl, so you can't see your primer. It also gives you an even color, since the underlying color is even too. Make that color close to the green color, but not too light. Talk to your paint store for advise on the shade.

I have not used SPI products yet, but have heard nothing but great reviews.

I believe R-M is "Rinshed and Mason" If memory serves me.... they were the first paint supplier for Cadillac about 1920??? ....SO THEY ARE VERY EXPERIENCED! :-) They are now part of the BASF paint empire, and as far as I know, their top line of paint.
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You will need a colored bassealer under your pearl, so you can't see your primer. It also gives you an even color, since the underlying color is even too. Make that color close to the green color, but not too light. Talk to your paint store for advise on the shade.

I have not used SPI products yet, but have heard nothing but great reviews.

I believe R-M is "Rinshed and Mason" If memory serves me.... they were the first paint supplier for Cadillac about 1920??? ....SO THEY ARE VERY EXPERIENCED! :-) They are now part of the BASF paint empire, and as far as I know, their top line of paint.
OUCH......1520.00 for paint and materials who knows a diamont rep I need a discount lol
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First off, the SPI products are the best I have ever used hands down, their prices are reasonable and customer service are second to none. As for base, you will likely get several different answers for different people. I have had good results from PPG Deltron, Standox, and R-M for base colors. I have not had the chance to use any, but I have heard good things about Pro-Spray and Wanda base coats as well. As already stated, I would also recommend using a sealer prior to base to get even coverage. I don't know if they still offer it or not, but R-M used to mix sealer in a color close to the base color to help with coverage on the highly transparent colors. If that's no longer an option, I would probably use a gray sealer or possibly black depending on if you want the paint a little lighter or darker when finished. For primer, sealer, clears, reducers, and cleaners I highly recommend SPI. I recommend their base coats too if you need one of the colors they offer. I used to use PPG 2021 and 2002 clear coats and switched to SPI, never looked back.

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First off, the SPI products are the best I have ever used hands down, their prices are reasonable and customer service are second to none. As for base, you will likely get several different answers for different people. I have had good results from PPG Deltron, Standox, and R-M for base colors. I have not had the chance to use any, but I have heard good things about Pro-Spray and Wanda base coats as well. As already stated, I would also recommend using a sealer prior to base to get even coverage. I don't know if they still offer it or not, but R-M used to mix sealer in a color close to the base color to help with coverage on the highly transparent colors. If that's no longer an option, I would probably use a gray sealer or possibly black depending on if you want the paint a little lighter or darker when finished. For primer, sealer, clears, reducers, and cleaners I highly recommend SPI. I recommend their base coats too if you need one of the colors they offer. I used to use PPG 2021 and 2002 clear coats and switched to SPI, never looked back.

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So Kelly just buy the base only from diamont and buy everything else from SPI ?
Mixing product will not matter?
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So Kelly just buy the base only from diamont and buy everything else from SPI ?
Mixing product will not matter?

That's what I would do. Mixing brands for different products (IE: SPI primer, SPI sealer, Diamont base, SPI clear) is not a problem. The problems start when you use different brands in the same product (IE: Diamont activator in PPG base, etc). Get diamont base, diamont reducer for the base, and diamont activator for the base. I use SPI primer, sealer and clear with either Standox or PPG Deltron base and have not had any problems with adhesion or longevity. Be sure you allow proper flash and dry times between coats and products. If it would make you feel better you can call Barry at SPI to ask and get his opinion of using his products with the Diamont base.

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OUCH......1520.00 for paint and materials who knows a diamont rep I need a discount lol
From the bottom to top... primer to final clear... I usually spend $2000-$3000 on materials for a complete job.

You get what you pay for! If you are selling the car, use cheap paint. It may look okay for 3-5 years. If you want it to look good for 20 to 30 years, use the good stuff. I don't know about you, but I only want to do things ONCE.
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Wow, this thread was started over 10 years ago. Heard nothing but good about SPI, but have not used it. I am having excellent results from Wanda.
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Wow, this thread was started over 10 years ago. Heard nothing but good about SPI, but have not used it. I am having excellent results from Wanda.
Who's Wanda lol
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do not be afraid of anything that SPI makes. I am not a pro but have done some spraying and SPI is tops.
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do not be afraid of anything that SPI makes. I am not a pro but have done some spraying and SPI is tops.
What product did you use From spi
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