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Differences between Tacsew and Juki

Hi All,

Great forum you have going here. I've learned a lot about painting from browsing this forum, but now I'm interested in getting into sewing. I've done tons and tons of research on the recommended industrial sewing machines. It looks like the Tacsew T111-155 is the one in my budget, and everyone says it's a fine machine. But two questions:

1) I've seen that the Tacsew is a copy of both the Consew 206 and 226. I'm guessing it's a typo and it seems like it's really a copy of the 206. Is this right?

2) What are the features on a Juki 1541 that make it so much more expensive than the Tacsew? They're both compound feed, walking foot-type, which I understand is a must, but what other must have features would I be sacrificing?

3) Also What features woudl I sacrifice if I passed up on a 226 for a Tacsew.

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A Tacsew 111W155 is a copy of the Consew 206, not a copy of the Consew 226.

The basic difference between the Tacsew or the Consew 206 and the Juki 1541 or Consew 226, is that the Tacsew and 206 have a horizontal hook assembly that loads bobbin thread from the left side of the needle. The bobbin case comes completely out of the machine to change bobbins. The Juki and 226 have vertical hook assemblies that load bobbins from the right side of the needle. The bobbin case is held in place and doesn't come out when changing bobbins. It's not a big deal, it's just different. The rest of the features are basically the same. They are all single needle, lockstitch, compound feed, walking foot, industrial sewing machines. If one had reverse over the others, you'd want the one with reverse. The Juki is self oiling from a reservoir, and the rest must be oiled by hand.

Juki is a very high quality machine, which is far better quality than the Tacsew. The Consew 226 is not as good as the Juki, but is also more high quality than the Tacsew. It has basically been replaced by the Consew 255RB-3. The Consew 206 used to be a really good machine, but for about 5 or 6 years has been made in China instead of Japan, and is not nearly as good as it once was.

What's the difference? Juki is an Oldsmobile, Consew is a Chevy, and the others are Yugos. If you made your living with a sewing machine, you'd want the Juki first, the Consew 226 second, and you'd pass on the other two, unless the 206 was an older version. If you're not going to sew with it every day, any of those machines would work fine to do a few interior jobs.
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Thanks much, Dan. This will be purely for hobby purposes, and potential side jobes if I ever get good at it. I just didn't want to pass up on any killer features available on the juki. One last thing. This Tacsew will use the same spare parts as the 206, I understand. Are spare parts readily available?

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As far as I know, all the Tacsew parts are the same as the Singer 111W, and those are very readily available.
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Thanks Dan.

Expect a bunch more dumb questions once I get started with this!
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Is a Consew 206rb-5 good unit to start on? I found one on Craigslist for $800 with table and motor.Im not sure how old it is yet. It says commercial sewing machine. Im looking for something that I dont have to upgrade down the road.
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Yes, it will be fine for a first machine, or forever if you aren't using it every day. That's a little pricey for a used 206, but not ridiculous. New ones with the table and motor sell for around $1250. The RB-5 is a newer model, probably less than 10 years old. It is used more for boat covers and tarps because it will make very large stitches, but the stitch length is adjustable. Be aware it has a clutch motor, which is harder for a beginner to use than a servo motor.
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Thanks, yeah the price seem a little high. I would rather have one with a servo motor. In the Juki and Consew machines, which models should I look for? Which machine if I used it a few times a week?
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That's still a good looking machine without much use, and it has extra feet that goes with it. The average home user will never wear out that 206, not even if it's used every day. Try to dicker to get a lower price. Any new Consew or Juki with a table and servo motor will be around $2,000, or more. A top end servo is only $200. Even if you paid full price for the 206, and buy the servo motor for it, that's still half of what a new one would cost. You'll get your money back out of it if you ever have to sell it.
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This is the response from the seller. "I do not know what year the machine was made, it was my Mom's when she use to do upholstery work. All maintenance had been kept up until the last 3 years since I've had it, I have not used it. My Mom used it for about 3-4 years. That's all I know about it, the book on the machine is also included along with all the different feet along with set-up on the table." I was wondering if $550-$600 would be a good offer for this? since I still would have to get a servo motor. Thanks
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When you make your offer, tell the seller you need to replace the clutch motor. Low-ball the seller if you want, but if you get this for $650 to $700 it's still a very good price. This machine has barely been used.
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When you make your offer, tell the seller you need to replace the clutch motor. Low-ball the seller if you want, but if you get this for $650 to $700 it's still a very good price. This machine has barely been used.
Yeah that's what I told the seller, but said they couldn't let it go for $600. Thats about my budget for now. I may try to wait it out. If it doesn't sell maybe they will sell it for $650 then. The seller said it was their mothers and has not been used for a few years.
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Regarding the tacsewt111-155 and juki. I bought a tacsew "to do my own stuff and learn, maybe a few jobs for others ". Flash forward 5 years and I CAN NOT keep up. I have more upholstery work than I can do, not enough hours in the day. I never intended for this to happen, but upholstery work took a life of its own in my house , and I am having a blast doing it.
The Tacsew was my 1st machine and the little guy paid for itself quickly, doing side jobs for friends, then their friends, and then the friends-friends. The tolerances on the machine really weren't that great, but I didn't know it and it functioned. The screws on various parts break often and I became a pretty decent sewing machine mechanic keeping it tuned properly. I often wished I had purchased used "name brand" machine for the same money as I paid for the tacsew. But, I also questioned if it was necessary because people were willing to pay for my work and a new machine is a big expense.
Flash forward to shop fire that destroyed all of my tools, and I mean all of them. I bought a juki 1508nh to replace my tacsew, and I quickly found that I was handicapped with the tacsew. My Juki is a dream to work with, and I expect any "name brand" machine to be equally satisfying. The Juki is a far superior machine with repeatable results, the equal stitch length around corners and over varying thickness is a direct result of superior engineering. IT CAN NOT be achieved on the TAcsew. I base that opinion on the fact that I have owned/maintained both machines, sewing the same materials with same operator, only the machine is different.
So, moral of the story is, buy the best quality machine you can afford..not the lowest price new or used machine. I wish I had purchased the Juki 1st. The machines will pay for themselves, even for a hobbyist, without much effort applied to looking for "work", the work will find you. Everybody needs or wants something sewed up. My 2 cents, Jeremy.
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You're right, there's no substitute for the right tools for the job. That holds true for every trade. The time wasted trying to make inferior tools do what you want is the difference between making money and losing money. I have been using a very old Consew 226 for most of my sewing, and it has done everything I've asked of it and more. I also have a Consew 255RB-3 for the time when the 226 fails, if that ever happens. Even if you only use it for a while and decide to get rid of it, you'll get your money back on a good quality sewing machine.
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Im waiting to here back from the seller for a barter deal for the Consew sewing machine. Since I do fabrication car audio/ fabrication work they might make a even trade for some work instead of the cash. Got my fingers crossed.
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