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Old 09-17-2002, 10:42 AM
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I like to see "alternative" engines myself instead of the "standard" hot-rod fare of 350 Chevys -- even a different SBC is more interesting! One engine so often overlooked is the old AMC/Rambler 250/287/327 (well before Chevy made one!) made from 1956-66. One reason is these are HEAVY engines, look sort of like a 396 big block. Heads aren't the greatest -- can't put much bigger valves in, that's why AMC never made them past 327 inches. But they are SUPER STRONG! The heavy block is coupled with factory forged cranks and rods. Put in some custom forged pistons (Chevy SBC may fit, as I think the 327 is 4.0" bore, pin height might not be right though) and run a turbo or notrous to make up for the valve size. The things won't come apart, even though a two bolt main (big caps though). One fellow runs a 287 (3.75" bore) in a 64 Rambler with a turbo and ran mid 12s on six cylinders. Found two broke rocker arms and a bent pushrod AFTER the run! I forget how much boost he was running and what compression, think it was 8:1 and 12 psi. They have been run with 20 psi boost. Another fellow has been running 13s with a bone stock 327 and nitrous. Only problem is transmission choices -- cast iron Borg Warner M-10, 11, or 12 auto, T-86 or T-89 three speed stick, or T-10 four speed stick were the only ones used. Another stick could be adapted with any of the bell housings, but the only other auto that could be easily adapted is the Ford FMX, which is a derivative of the BW auto. It probably isn't any stronger than the cast iron BW, but would be easier to get parts for. This engine doesn't use the same bell housing bolt pattern as later model (67-91) AMC V-8s, so the Torque Flites would be out.

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Old 09-17-2002, 02:46 PM
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I lean toward Studebakers,now there's some horsepower.
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Old 09-17-2002, 04:10 PM
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Studebaker motors are where its at.....more main bearing surface than a BBC, more rod bearing surface than a SBC, Stock Forged crank on ALL Studebaker V8s, better valve angle than a SBC, stock gear drive cam, stock forged rods, high nickle content in block, WIDE crank angle for serious torque, water pump attaches to each head and to two places in the block, later blocks have full flow oil filtration. What other motor would run 185+ mph at B-ville straight off the show room floor, sure as hell not a 64 malibu or fairlane. What car won the purestock muscle car drags in 2000? A 64 Studebaker Lark, only 289 cubes, ran 12 sec. flat if I remember correctly. I think we will be seeing more of these motors in the near future.....(like Tom Branche's roadster!!)

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Old 09-17-2002, 05:14 PM
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Hey, if studes where so bad a%* where and the he!! did they go.

Just kidding, still just having a little fun.

What ever floats your boat, or Studebaker, its all about what you enjoy.

Keep having fun.
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Old 09-17-2002, 06:33 PM
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hey, maby you should change your name to ".41 Willys", from the looks of your avatar thats all ya got just pokin some fun at ya
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That's funny you say that. That picture is a month or so old, and it started out about 2 1/2 months ago as a bare, bare frame, not even paint. How long have you had your car, when are you going to start. Just kidding. Mine should be finished (completely) by April, I HOPE.
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farna.........
Quote..One engine so often overlooked is the old AMC/Rambler 250/287/327 (well before Chevy made one!) made from 1956-66............

I think Chevy started working on the 350 in 1955 with a little 265 V8... and its gotten bigger and better ever since. It has been the SB motor to beat since its conception.
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41Willys, I got my car when I was 14, I have had it for 5 years now and it is nearly complete enough to start another project. Are you going to update your avatar with a new pic? On the other hand though, your avatar shows that you are going about it the right way....Just for the record, Quepas00, Stude started making V8s in 1952, I know they weren't the first but that is still earlier than a 265.

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Old 09-18-2002, 10:15 AM
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Just pokin at ya. You see, this has become fun lately, with all of the crap talking. Hey thanks by the way, and what are you going to start? I got new pics, I have been toooooooo lazy, but it doesn't show a whole lot of change. I have to get my body ready now. Talk at you later. I will be waiting for a reply with some kind of joke or slam.

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Old 09-18-2002, 10:33 AM
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It would be cool if you could have a slide show avatar. You could put a time line of photos there and people could watch your car being built!! 41Willys, I am about to start on a 50 GMC pickup. It is gonna get the full treatment: Biggest legal chop (6 inch winshield) fenderskirts, chrome stacks, wide whites with desoto caps in the front and a 48 buick grille. Speaking of different motors, I'll probably stuff it with a 270 jimmy cause my dad said he would give me one. It will be in the dirt and be covered in black suede....I can't wait to start it.
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