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Old 12-08-2008, 09:00 PM
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CHANGE IS GOOD...remember that. You guys were also the same guys that didn't like the LS series engine when it came out...

Today we have access to so much great technology, it is amazing....why not embrace it, instead of sticking your head in the sand.

To those that can see past there own nose, the new Digital Torque Wrench's are great. Not only are they about 20 times more accurate then your old clicker, they can self test and alert you if they go out of calibration, you know like you drop one while your hands are oily. Right.

Todays fasteners make Digital torque wrenches a must, you just can not get an accurate reading with a clicker wrench while tightening down todays torque to yield fasteners. get out of the 70's and get yourself a good Twrench. There is nothing wrong with Craftsmen tools, but if you don't like them then keep it too yourself and go with the brand you do like, like harbor freight....Right.

Make sure you look around on the web before you plunk down your cash, I've seen some very good deals lately.

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Old 12-09-2008, 07:22 AM
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Sure. See post #4 in this thread for all the details on how to make the tool.


In a while, Chet.
thanks for that I will sure have a good look at that, again thank you..
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Today we have access to so much great technology, it is amazing....why not embrace it, instead of sticking your head in the sand.
I agree if you let Tech pass you by its hard to catch up to it.

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There is nothing wrong with Craftsmen tools, but if you don't like them then keep it too yourself and go with the brand you do like, like harbor freight....Right.
Maybe not but their policy's change direction like the wind. when I but a tool , it is a investment.


When I buy something new I also buy for the service.
I will spend more for the service that comes with it.

AND.. If I don't like it I will stand on top of anything & everything & blast it to the world.

If I had the time I would go to Chicago & Picket the Sears Tower.
I will get on every Internet forum & say so.

So who are you to tell me to shut the **** up? Because Sears RE ~NIGGS on their warranty policies?

This is still the USA I still have freedom of speech! @ least for a month or two. {that is a joke so get a grip & let not get into politics I am sick of that stuff.}




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I agree with Rob, Craftsman sure let me down on my torque wrench. Mine had only been used a few times and as far as I know whatever it was that broke/came loose did so while it was in it's plastic storage case (which incidentally they charged extra for) and even though it was out of warranty (it was two years old) charging within a couple of dollars of the price of a new one for the service charge was ridiculous, with shipping charges both ways it was nearly $30 over the cost of a new one. Craftsman tools are only average at best and I base this on having seen them tried many times over the years to outfit mine equipment service trucks, within a few months every single one of the guys who tried to save money by going to Sears wound up buying Proto or Snap-On. As I have said already for the "weekend warrior" I see nothing wrong with buying some kinds of econo tools for occasional use but critical tools like torque wrenches, multi-meters or anything that has to do with safety should not be included in the list. For what a Craftsman torque wrench costs a better quality wrench like a genuine S&K can be bought for only a few dollars more. To me Craftsman fall somewhere between a cheap tool and a good one, while they are certainly far better than anything you could find at HF they still have a long way to go to reach the quality of a real professional grade tool like Snap-On. For the cost Craftsman is probably the best buy out there for the home shop but again too much depends on your torque wrench and I for one will never buy another Craftsman.
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digital torque wrenchs

I tell ya I have been in the marine engine and industrial engine service for years and i just started working with a new guy at work. He has a digital snap on 1/2 inch drive torque wrench he paid 500.00 for and i would certainly trust it any day over a 200.00 mechanical one. like they say you get what u pay for.
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Keep in mind that all a torque wrench does is measure the resistance to rotation and not the clamping force of the nut/bolt. In ideal conditions this will be the same but all it takes is unclean threads to undertorque or overlubed threads especially under the head of the nut/bolt to overtorque. In my experience this is responsible for far more mistakes than an inaccurate torque wrench. Obviously while using a strain gauge or ultrasonic means is not necessary for what most of us do, attention to threads is very important for an accurate reading.
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I use click for starting then finish with the more accurate dial SnapOn/Matco models.

If it a critical high cost fastner I use my sonic testor to measure the stretch.

That is the future, stretch of the fastener....more and more engine builders are using the stretch measurement devises for all critical bolts and studs.

With the many different lubricants used/manufactured by different companies you actualy have to know the torque coeificient to get whatever torque number you are looking to set a t/wrench. Miscalculate and you snap fastners real quick. Measure the stretch you are never wrong.
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