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Old 01-13-2013, 08:42 AM
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I have been thinking about this thread and to me it would be very much worth it to maintain the windshield in an opening condition..either you make a frame using a piece of the old frame as a sample or find one somewhere. Having that fresh air in your face is something that just cannot be replicated..

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I agree, but instead of telling him that at first and look like a negative Nellie I figured I would help him do what he wanted. But yes, personally, that is one the of cool things about these old cars, the parts that AREN'T like new cars. I personally WANT my old car to be an OLD car when I drive it. I can drive the wife's mini van anytime I want if I want all the comforts of a late model.

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Old 01-13-2013, 09:06 AM
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I agree, but instead of telling him that at first and look like a negative Nellie I figured I would help him do what he wanted. But yes, personally, that is one the of cool things about these old cars, the parts that AREN'T like new cars. I personally WANT my old car to be an OLD car when I drive it. I can drive the wife's mini van anytime I want if I want all the comforts of a late model.

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I agree with both of you to a point but each to his own. While I do like the original look and feel, I love the challenge of customizing things. Just to make it different or more practical. I remember one of the first things I customized (16 years ago with the help of my dad) was the bumpers on a 72 Ford F100, I placed the bolts in the bumper, welded them to the bumper from the back side and then ground of the heads, welded the outside and ground everything smooth. Painted one set and had one set chromed. It was not a drastic change, but it was enough to make people stop and look at it for a few minutes trying to figure out why it looked different that the others. I will try to get some pictures of the bumpers they look good smooth. Thar's why I like the idea that Martin had of using the factory frame for trim. The car would still have an original look but would also accomplish the owner's end result. But this is all just my opinion
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Thanks guys you've given me plenty to consider. Both offer something. I'm hoping to find some fixed pics so I'm able to get a better look.
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To be honest I have not. My thought to fixed was that I've always been told their typically leakers. So, maybe I should be asking another set of questions. Anyway...thanks to all for the input.
Leakers... yeah some, but not enough to abandon the concept IMO. I've driven my Tudor in torrential down pours while driving on the interstate. Once I got home I just remember using a chamois to get the water off the body, not enough water in the car to even worry about.

Hinging the windshield out is part of the iconic cool factor of owning a Model T, Model A, Model B, etc. It's all good, but since you haven't experienced it yet I guess I am suggesting you give it a try. It's pretty freakin' cool!

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Unsure at the moment but have an open mind. On another note, is a 3" chop your sporting on that 30-31 or more. I went with 3 and believe I'm happy with that. Next, because i'm in the planning stage...you running 15 x 7 in the rear and 15 x 5 in front????

I've never noticed a visor mounted mirror on an A.....believe that looks real good there, probally a better mount there as well.

Nice car there cowboy.

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I don't get the joke. This photo you see of a couple of my A bodies was my back yard around 1980. Do I need a signed, notarized affidavit of my skills? I have been asked before so I can get one from an old customer or something.

This reminds me of a young punk I worked with at the shop. He was a WRX owning Wheelie riding crotch rocket riding speed demon. He LIVED for speed telling everyone how he hit 100 on the way to work thru traffic on the freeway. We all went out for his birthday (boss paid) to a near by indoor Go Cart track, about 8 of us. I was the fastest on the track and blew him away! He was so friggin stunned you could have knocked him over with a feather, he literally was STUNNED. I told him "I didn't get this gray hair sitting on the F-ing couch"! LOLOL, young punk thinks speed demons were just created yesterday? LOLOL

The man asked a question about putting a flush glass in a Model A, I tossed something out there. It is a DISCUSSION on how to pull this off. I KNOW you would have some ideas too, even if you never did it, I have never made a limo either but if a 60 Cad rolled into the shop and I was told to do it, I would go out there and would make it happen. When you are a pro and have fabbed stuff all your life you just MAKE IT HAPPEN. So I was tossing ideas out there.

I have worked on these bodies a lot and know them body pretty well (baring forgetting bits and pieces over the years), I have chopped the top on a few, filled the roof on a few I have picked up that very windshield frame a swap meet and brought it home to fit it. At the time the photo was taken of the A bodies in my back yard I was building my truck in the garage with a 401 Buick mid engine! Yes that is a Nailhead sitting in the cab. I think I can fab a few things for goodness sakes. Around this time I did all the body work and paint on a "resto-rod" Model A coupe (the maroon car in the photo at the show) including a 32 Ford cowl vent and deuce bumpers tucked in a little closer, shortened the stock tail light stands to give it a little cleaner look with a deuce grille shell, it won best in class at the Grand Nationals (a REAL car show) a number of years later after a little detail and clean up! The yellow truck was the first Model A I chopped, 1977.

Now getting back to the window, you need to weld in something that the glass will set on with a bed of urethane tying it together with that piece. The glass is about a quarter inch thick and the bed should be about a quarter inch (or a tad more) thick. So if you want the glass to be flush you need it about a half inch down from the edge of the window opening. You could simply weld a little ledge onto the A pillars and across the top and bottom, the gas tank would have to be permanently welded in I am thinking, but that is usually a given on a hot rod A anyway. The problem across the bottom and the top would be that you need to come up a little with a shelf so there is a flat surface all the way around for the moulding to sit on.

Geeeez I didn't get this gray hair sitting on the F-ing couch! , double

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I love how you can't take a joke-lol Where's the pink bike? Didn't that take home a trophy too?

Martin, don't let things on the net get so personal. I gotta lot of respect for you. you have taught me a lot with just words. Now that you posted those pics you get more of my respect. I agreed with what you said about the channel but had no idea about what glass to use but I always hear that s-10 glass being brought up on line.

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Old 01-13-2013, 07:19 PM
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Unsure at the moment but have an open mind. On another note, is a 3" chop your sporting on that 30-31 or more. I went with 3 and believe I happy with that. Next, because i'm in the planning stage...you running 15 x 7 in the rear and 15 x 5 in front????

Nice car there cowboy.
Chop is 2-1/2" rear, 2-3/4" front. 15x8 rear wheels, 15x6 front.

Hinge the windshield, you'll be glad you did. We love hearing the carb. sucking down air, and the rush of air in your face when you smash the foot feed.

There are certain styling cues that are iconic... things like suicide doors, cowl mounted fuel tanks, and yes, hinged windshields. Embrace these items from the golden era of the automobile.

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Chop is 2-1/2" rear, 2-3/4" front. 15x8 rear wheels, 15x6 front.

Hinge the windshield, you'll be glad you did. We love hearing the carb. sucking down air, and the rush of air in your face when you smash the foot feed.

There are certain styling cues that are iconic... things like suicide doors, cowl mounted fuel tanks, and yes, hinged windshields. Embrace these items from the golden era of the automobile.
1/4 inch difference between the front and back...now that's subtile. I do like subtile though. Wadja cut down that deuce shell....2 inches maybe.

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Old 01-13-2013, 07:57 PM
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1/4 inch difference between the front and back...now that's subtile. I do like subtile though. Wadja cut down that deuce shell....2 inches maybe.
It's a stock height shell, but without the radiator filler hole. At the time I lived in Brookville Ohio, a.k.a. the home of Brookville Roadster. Talk about walking into a time warp! I recall going there to buy a few parts and it was like walking into the past. '30's era bodies being assembled, 30's era frames, it was surreal. There was even even an all stainless '32 frame there. My read is good people, good parts and good times!
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I kept the opening windshield on my 29 Whippet and I'm glad I did. It gets a lot of attention and doesn't leak a drop of water, even after driving 50 miles in a downpour!
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I love how you can't take a joke-lol Where's the pink bike? Didn't that take home a trophy too?

Martin, don't let things on the net get so personal. I gotta lot of respect for you. you have taught me a lot with just words. Now that you posted those pics you get more of my respect. I agreed with what you said about the channel but had no idea about what glass to use but I always hear that s-10 glass being brought up on line.
You don't use the S-10 glass, it's curved, the windshield on an A like all the glass in the car is flat so it's not big deal for any good glass shop to cut for you. The S-10 part is simply the moulding you could use around the glass for a "Flush mount" glass.

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