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Old 10-28-2006, 07:17 PM
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DO THEY MAKE "CYLINDER HEAD BRASS FREEZE PLUGS ?

Hi Guys

Got this pain in the butt situation.

I replaced the STEEL FREEZE PLUGS that were placed in the body of my motor mistakely by my machine shop. WITH BRASS ONES.

After reading (maybe that my problem ) The reading said, "... Brass Freeze Plugs last LONGER than STEEL."

My problem is: I CAN'T FINE BRASS FREEZE PLUGS FOR THE HEADS

Presently, Steel Freeze Plugs are DEEP SET ONES in the Cylinder Heads.
The Brass body plugs I are shallow around the rims. The Steel ones in the head have a DEEPER RIM that set into the heard DEEPER.

Any you guys can figure-out this pain in the butt problem for me PLEASE.

WHERE ON EARTH CAN I BUY THOSE DAMN 'DEEP SET RASS FREEZE HEAD PLUGS" for my 289 engine

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Old 10-28-2006, 07:21 PM
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"The Brass body plugs I are shallow around the rims. The Steel ones in the head have a DEEPER RIM that set into the heard DEEPER."

Why would this be a problem.......?

As long as they seal the hole, I don't see a problem. Use whatever you can get....Brass may last longer, but the steel will probably outlast the engine.
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Pioneer Barnes, Dorman, US Tool, are 3 suppliers of cup plugs.

Could look it up on Monday if need be.
Also see you live in Las Vegas(pretty big city) if you cant find a machine shop there that can come up with correct part number I dont know what to do.


Is this a small block Ford?
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SCHOONER,

The "shallow cup" will work just fine the head. Pound it in and get it running again.

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Dorman (Motormite) part #565-028 (deep 1-1/2"), 565-077 (shallow 1-1/2"), both brass plug numbers.

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If you are concerned about rust you could scuff and paint the freeze plug (inside and out) with engine enamel - just make sure you wipe any paint off the "sides" of the plug before you pound it in.
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Hey Poncho62

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"The Brass body plugs I are shallow around the rims. The Steel ones in the head have a DEEPER RIM that set into the heard DEEPER."

Why would this be a problem.......?

As long as they seal the hole, I don't see a problem. Use whatever you can get....Brass may last longer, but the steel will probably outlast the engine.
What the problem is; There's a reason why those head freeze plug are deep set. Other wise they would have put in the shallow ones. There's a reason for everything in this world. That's why?

I don't mean to be short with you. I'm just kinda talkin' to myself and sharing it with.

Thank you for your impute
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Hey Guy

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Originally Posted by Greg Latvala
Pioneer Barnes, Dorman, US Tool, are 3 suppliers of cup plugs.

Could look it up on Monday if need be.
Also see you live in Las Vegas(pretty big city) if you cant find a machine shop there that can come up with correct part number I dont know what to do.


Is this a small block Ford?
YES, its a 289 Mustang engine.
If the machine shop has the deep set plugs, then why can't I get 'em from auto part suppliers?

Thanks for you impute.
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All 289 and 302 had the shallow plugs in there from factory. When you put them in be sure to get them past the little chamfered area. If one pups out that wont be too good for your engine.

I used to put the deep ones in because thats all I was given to use (didnt know any better either), theres still room for water to flow inside. The deep plugs will not come out easy like the shallow ones did.
Now I would want to do it right find the shallow cup plugs.
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Hey Greg

Thanks for you impute.

I replaced the steel freeze plugs with; BRASS ONES.
And yes I did bang 'em in pass the champed part around the openning.

However, what I'm talking about is: Replacing those darn Cyliinder Head Steel Plugs with BRASS ONE. These C/H/Plugs have an 7/16" rim around them and the plug sits into the head deeply. Not like the ones on the block.

My problem is I want to replace those suckers with: BRASS ONES. But I haven't found the DEEP SET BRASS ONES WITH THE 7/16ths. in. rim that go deep into the heads.

My search continues, help if you can in locating a supplier that has those darn Brass Head Plugs.

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I believe Pioneer makes/sells them (brass ones).

If need by, you can use a slide hammer with a screw to remove the old ones.

Steel works OK, as long as they are installed with some kind of sealant, and as long as you use antifreeze/coolant that has anticorrosive additives. Of course, you are playing with fire if you are using just water for coolant. It cools well, but it EATS your cooling system.
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it's The Attack Of The Zombie Threads!!!!

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it's The Attack Of The Zombie Threads!!!!

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I think you are right since the guy was looking for them in October of 2006...........I would think that he has found them by now, LOL.
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