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Do you think the president's limo is carbed?

Just another random thought that zipped thru my mind today:

Do you think the the president's limo might be carbed? Why or why not?

Briefly my thoughts (and i will add more if the discussion goes anywhere....):

We do know that it is built on a Chevy/GMC kodiak/topkick medium truck chassis. Wow #1. And uses the cadillac deville/dts body--an extended and "slightly" modified version that is.

But what about underneath all that? My theory is that they need the upmost dependability and reliability---especially in foreign countries. A carbed, mechanical pump setup can provide this while giving up little in terms of performance vs. fuel injection/computers. Also they are not concerned about mpg or pollution.

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Old 09-01-2012, 08:09 PM
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Very interesting thoughts, very interesting! I never thought about it, I have seen a few presidential limos in person and was thrilled to be able to lay on the floor in the museum and look at the inner stuff they do to them. I really wonder because your thoughts are dead on if you ask me. But on the same respect look at a fighter jet, the damn thing flies it's self, I am thinking they have similar technology for the pres' limo.

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Actually, the question is probably moot as i've just read it's a diesel.

HOWEVER, we can now speculate wether this is a mechanical, non-computerized diesel. Or does it have the latest gizmos controlled by a computer?

We can also speculate wether the previous recent limos from both Bush administrations and the clinton administration (also a cadillac) were carbed? These last 3 presidential administrations were during all/most production cars and efi and electronics.
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Are you trying to say that todays vehicles are not dependable?

What a load...todays cars are far and above anything made in the 60s-80s for dependability. Granted, they may cost more to fix and and are more costly when the do break down, but they dont as often as they used to.
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But the most important question is .... Does it meet CAFE standards?
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I will say its the opposite for diesel today diesel truck imo dont have half the reliabilty they used to its all electronically and emmisions related. My buddy has two 2010 isuzu npr that live in the dealer 6.7 cummins are having injector problem by the ton my uncles 6.4 l ford i have replaced the the engine harness harness and deleted the dpf because that famn dpf was giving tons of head aches. Then you have trucks like my old 12 valve running around with 700k i never should of sold that truck. So if it is diesel im betting its good old trust mechanical injection
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Carbed Engine ?????????

Dont ask obama if its carbed,he wont know what your talking about,without his teleprompter,to answer for him !!!!!!!!!!!
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Are you trying to say that todays vehicles are not dependable?

What a load...todays cars are far and above anything made in the 60s-80s for dependability. Granted, they may cost more to fix and and are more costly when the do break down, but they dont as often as they used to.
I have thought about this a lot. What is "Reliable"? If we are talking the overall miles the car will go, oh yeah todays car will go much further. But if you are talking about predictable failures, an old car was much better being it gave you warnings. Todays cars simply STOP without a hit of a warning.

I know I feel much better driving my old Rambler everyday to work than my 15 year old computer controlled car I was driving. I have only had one problem with it but limped my way home and fixed it. The computer controlled car, I never knew if it would start or not.

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Are you trying to say that todays vehicles are not dependable?

What a load...todays cars are far and above anything made in the 60s-80s for dependability. Granted, they may cost more to fix and and are more costly when the do break down, but they dont as often as they used to.

What i meant was the presidential support group needs easy/fast to diagnose and fix systems. As well as very reliable systems----which we can argue that carb, mechanical pumps, and simple distributors are MORE reliable than electronics. This is not to say electronics ARE NOT reliable. It is just saying that mechanicals are EVEN MORE reliable. And simplier, yet they do the job pretty much as well as the electronics.

a) Look at the recent Kim Jong mentally ill parade:
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UEPiUZYq7E0

Why did they choose these limosines especially when you consider that N. Korea doesn't like the USA? (could these be chinese copies?)

Simple to fix, diagnose and to get and install parts.

2) We might speculate that Cadillac one DOES NOT have independent front or rear suspension since it is built on a medium truck chassis?
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[QUOTE=against all odds;1587671]Actually, the question is probably moot as i've just read it's a diesel.

HOWEVER, we can now speculate wether this is a mechanical, non-computerized diesel. Or does it have the latest gizmos controlled by a computer?

I am thinking the diesel engine is a non electronic version as it would not succumb to the effects of a nuclear bomb having been detonated , as the atmosphere would be saturated with radiation, which renders micro electronic circuits inoperable . Insulating the electronics parts of the vehicle would require the use of lead, which is impermeable by radiation, but would be required to enshroud all devices and the wiring to them.
Not real practical.
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I would agree, very interesting.

I'm guessing, since it is Obama's ride, that it's not bio-diesel, it probably runs on either hope, change, or massive amounts of bull fecal matter
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Actually, it runs on hot air. Washington has plenty. I am shocked it ever snows there, outside anyway.
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Why all these "thoughts" why is this even a discussion why in the world would you think it might be "carbed". I like LATECH comment about the hot air......man is that ever the truth.....on both sides.
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November is comming real soon, we won't have to wonder about that excrement any longer. HE's out of here!
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You know why they have curtains on voting booths. I think politics is best left behind curtains I am sure most people can agree on some things. I personally would rather talk about how Chevy rules! jk lol
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