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tnt
well you need to be insane to try this idea
first TNT does sweat pure nitro as it gets old in fact in the 18th century they use to sweat dynamite over steaming water it floats on top of water if nitro reaches 152 degrees or more you are dead if you miss handle nitro via bottle not full to top and you shake or jar the container you are dead adding nitro to gas the first drop you are dead if you get caught doing this in any way shape or form you are in jail period. just stick the TNT in your carb light it and run far away if you don't die you will go to jail if caught top fuel nitro is not the same if you want to play with top fuel nitro go to Hobie shop buy 15% nitro airplane fuel put it with 1 gallon gass in empty gass take go play for 10 miles and pull your spark plugs see if you can find the electrode good luck with 15% mix more like 7.5% by volume as for buying 90% top fuel nitro good luck with out permit and alot of green 57$ a quart good luck lets not hear of you dying ok Bookster2771@aol.com |
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My reply to another letter of the weak: "No it doesn't"
Uhh Another Letter of the Weak.
1. God is not American. 2. I stand up to pee 3. You are all Cowards and Infidels. 4. Get a degree in chemistry...... 5. Build a lab...... 6. And go test your lame sit down to pee theories..... 7. Or sit there with your voodo dolls and evil ju-ju and beware of your own shadows (it's the anti christ you see) 8. And just remember: My car is faster than your car. 1,000 HP is good. 1,000,000 HP is better. |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
TNT,Nitroglycerine and Nitromenthane are all very similar in thier chemical makeup.They all share the same quality of being high in oxegen content,and all of them use nitrogen atoms in their compounds to attract the oxegen atoms and keep them from going crazy with the hydrogen and carbon atoms.This quality allows them to decompose with less free oxegen then most hydrocarbons.TNT would be hard to stabilze in gasoline because it is basically a solid.Nitromenthane is the most compatable with fuel blending,and if TNT were stable the results would be similar to that of nitromethane.Nitro has a lot of performance potential as a stand alone power adder.Nitro burns slower then gas and alcohol,and is harder to ignite.Pound for pound Nitro has less energy potential the gasoline,but it makes up for it in the fact that you can run much more nitro in your intake charge then you can gasoline.WIth gasoline you reach a point of fuel saturation soon after you pass the ideal stiomtric a/f ratio of about 13:1,and beyond that,there isnt enough oxegen in the intake charge to burn any additional gasoline,so there is no more power potential.If you add way too much gasoline,performance decreases since the extra fuel evaporationg inside the chamber as combustion temapture rises will actually draw off heat from the combustion process and you loose the energy you derived for the fuel you did get to burn.Nitro on the other hand can be run almost 1:1.In neither case does this mean you have 1 part liquid fuel to 1 part air,but rather 1 part of fuel vapor to 1 part of air in a nitro motor compared to 1 part gasoline vapor to 13 parts air in a gasoline engine.Either way the fact is that you have 13 times as much fuel in the chamber with nitro as you do with gasoline,so the decreased BTU value of it is made up for with the volume of fuel you can burn.Nitro burns slower then gasoline,so it continues to push the piston down the bore for a longer period of time then gasoline which is a good advantage since it allows you to get more work out of the piston with less force being applied to it.Nitro burns so long as the piston travels down the bore that even after the piston is past BTD on the power stroke and the exhaust valve opens to let the fumes out,the nitro is still burning and begins to burn again in a secondary reaction when it is expelled out of the header and into the atmosphere this is why nitro burns so loud and with such big flames out of the pipes.If you wanted to enhance the potential of your gasoline engine,you could add about 10% nitro to the tank and see a big power gain.You would have to make sure that your carb is jetted correctly since you will be substituting the gasoline with something that wants a lot less air.On a stock engine you could damage it,but it would be similar to running about a 150 shot of nitrous oxide is how it effectes the engine.The exhaust would be very loud and most street type mufflers would not last long.
TNT is used as an explosive because it can be confined into a container with little or no available oxegen and when a heat source is introduced the oxegen will begin reacting with the hydrogen and carbon atoms and leaving the nitogen atoms out of the equation.Any chemical that can do this trick is what you would call and explosive since if you can build a strong enough container you can get a lot of it to burn and build up a lot of pressure bfore the container bursts and lets thepressure out into th atmosphere or into anything in the path of this moving explosion.Just remember that in this situation,the container is your pistons and cylinder walls,and the atmosphere is actually the water jackets which will be accessed via the head gaskets.Adding high amounts of nitrogen to a hydrocarbon compound allows the compound to also contain more oxegen in a stable form without the oxegen trying to combine with just the hydrogen and carbon atoms all by themselves.all it takes is a little bit of heat to be added and presto,the happy nitrogen/oxegen/carbon/hydrogen family is busted up and poor old nitrogen has to find a home of his own because oxegen wants the carbon and hydrogen all to itself,and this is the combustion process that is taking place when anything"nitro" burns.It is also why mixing deisel fuel{a hycrocarbon} and amonium NITRate fertilizer together is such a powerfull tool for blowing things up in the world of terrorism.You can load a bunch of it into the back of a box truck,and even if the truck were stuffed into the confines of a stuffy or dank parking garage,there would still be plenty of oxegen floating around for the explosion to happen,and it would burn fast enough to fill the confines of a basement or garage with more pressure then the doors could effectivly vent,so the reaction would further accelerate until the walls failed and by that time,the reaction is much bigger then anything possible with a hydrocarbon into air reaction.Niether chemical on it's own is all that powerful,but when you use nitrogen to stabilized the oxegen in a volitile compound it doesnt take a lot of heat to set the breakdown of that compound into motion. So dont blow yourself up,and keep those nitroglicerine pills off the edge of the counter!!! |
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Re: My reply to another letter of the weak: "No it doesn't"
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Buddy, I've got 19 years of practical experience and training in this stuff, so I don't have to worry about proving my qualifications to some keyboard buffoon who probably doesn't see daylight very often, let alone offer any value to human kind. If you had any kind of professional standing at all, you would hardly contemplate throwing these ideas out to the general public, some of whom might be young enough and naive enough to actually think you have any intelligence. |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
Holy crap,I asked a simple question and the next thing I know I'm in high school chemistry class again.Which by the way I hated every minute of.I had heard this story on several occasions over the last 10 or 15 years and always wondered about but never had the slightest inclination in trying. I know where to buy nitromethane if I wanted to blow up one of my perfectly good engines but I haven't done that either. Anyway,I think some of you guys know enough about explosives to be on the FBI wanted list as terrorists ![]() |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
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trike, that was the best! Rock on and God bless... Señor |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
i hear mothballs in gas works?
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Re: Re: My reply to another letter of the weak: "No it doesn't"
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George Bush is a brain damaged alcoholic blow monkey... He starts economic wars to steal peoples oil for him and his buddies companies.... He is the Commander in Chief... And you was working for him..... Americans in the collective sense, are the most hated people on the face of the earth...... I am not American - you are. My car is still faster than your car. What more can I say? |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
Simple...We still live in the best country...God Bless The USA.....yeah we are the most hated country....But,who does everybody run to when they get stung?
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TNT
Looks like everyone is getting off the subject. I think the question has been answered if you read carefully. This is the kinda crap that makes a good forum a bad one. Grow up people.
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
There's a new recipient of the coveted Darwin Award on the horizon
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
lets say you have a small block 350 that puts out 300hp, and you want it to make 400hp ... you could easily add a 100 shot of nitrous .. but thats to easy ... so lets make some tnt gas ....
so now you do all your figureing and manage to add enough tnt to get you that 100hp ... assuming it even does desolve .. ok .. so your car has a 12 gallon gass tank ... and lets say you get 10 miles to the gallon .. thats 120 miles .. and that bottle of nitrous i mentioned ... you get - what? - 12 passes at the drag stip out of a 10 pound bottle .. thats 3 miles/ 10lb.... 120 mile range divided by 3miles/ bottle = a need for forty 10lb bottles to go 120 miles so 12 gallons of "tnt" gas is as good as 12 gallons of gas with 400 pounds of nitrous strapped to it how much of an explosion would 12 gallons of gas and 400 pounds of NOS make ??? ... thats what to expect if you accidently blow up 12 gallons of tnt spiked gass if you were to ever try this ... make sure that every blood relative of yours in the entire world is near by .... that way we could get rid of your entire families retarded fcking bloodline ! |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
Encyclopedia: TNT (explosive)
Sponsored links: Trinitrotoluene (TNT) is a pale yellow crystalline aromatic hydrocarbon compound that melts at 81 C (178 F). Trinitrotoluene is an explosive chemical and a part of many explosive mixtures, such as when mixed with ammonium nitrate to form amatol. It is prepared by the nitration of toluene (C6H5CH3), it has a chemical formula of C6H2(NO2)3CH3, and IUPAC name 2,4,6-trinitromethylbenzene. TNT was invented in 1863 by Joseph Wilbrand. In its refined form, Trinitrotoluene is fairly stable, and unlike nitroglycerin, it is relatively insensitive to friction, blows or jarring. This means that it must be set off by a detonator. It does not react with metals or absorb water, and so is very stable for storage over long periods of time, unlike dynamite. But it is readily acted upon by alkalis to form unstable compounds that are very sensitive to heat and impact. The specific combustion energy of TNT is 4.6 MJ/kg, hence 1 kt TNT = 4.6 TJ (terajoule), 1 Mt TNT = 4.6 PJ (petajoule). Note that non-nuclear explosives release less energy per kilogram than everyday household products like fat (38 MJ/kg) or sugar (17 MJ/kg); they do, however, release their combustion energy much more rapidly. Many military testing grounds are contaminated with TNT. People who are exposed to high doses of TNT tend to experience anemia and abnormal liver functions. Similar blood and liver effects, spleen enlargement and other harmful effects on the immune system were found in animals that ingested or breathed trinitrotoluene. There are also reports of skin irritation after being exposed. There is evidence that TNT adversely affects male fertility, and TNT is listed as a possible human carcinogen. Consumption of TNT produces black urine. Encyclopedia: Nitroglycerin Sponsored links: Nitroglycerin (also nitroglycerine, trinitroglycerin, or glyceryl trinitrate) is a chemical compound, a heavy colorless poisonous oily explosive liquid obtained by nitrating glycerol. It is used in the manufacture of explosives, specifically dynamite, and as such is employed in the construction and demolition industries. It is also used medically as a vasodilator to treat heart conditions. It is colored yellow when it is decomposing due to acidic pH. Instability and desensitization In its pure form, it is shock-sensitive (i.e., physical shock can cause it to explode) and degrades over time to even more unstable forms. This makes it highly dangerous to transport or use in its pure form. Early in the history of this explosive it was discovered that liquid nitroglycerin can be "desensitized" by cooling to 40–50 °F, at which temperature it freezes, contracting upon solidification. However, later thawing can be extremely sensitizing, especially if impurities are present or if warming is too rapid. It is possible to chemically "desensitize" nitroglycerin to a point where it can be considered approximately as "safe" as modern High Explosive formulations, by the addition of approximately 10%–30% ethanol, acetone, or dinitrotoluene (percentage varys with the desensitizing agent used). Desensitization requires extra effort to reconstitute the "pure" product. Failing this, it must be assumed that desensitized nitroglycerine is substantially more difficult to detonate, possibly rendering it useless as an explosive for practical application. What is detonation? Nitroglycerin and any or all of the diluents mentioned above can certainly deflagrate, or burn. However, the explosive power of nitroglycerin is derived from detonation: a shock propagates through the fuel-rich medium at a supersonic speed. In other words, the initial burn sets up a pressure gradient that pre-ignites unshocked material, creating a fast-moving transition zone, which (due to the nature of the material) can detonate any appropriate material it encounters. This generates a self-sustained cascade of hyper-instantaneous pressure-induced combustion that grows upon itself exponentially. This is quite unlike deflagration, which depends solely upon available fuel, regardless of pressure or shock. An explosion is essentially a very fast combustion, and combustion requires fuel and an oxidant. Nitroglycerin, as can be seen from its composition and structure (below), essentially contains both of these components. If it is detonated under pressure, it explodes to form thousands of times its original volume in hot gas. One of these gases is nitrogen gas. It is very stable so its production is highly exothermic, which is why it is a main constituent of most explosives. Properties formula: CH2(ONO2)-CH(ONO2)-CH2(ONO2) IUPAC Name: 1,2,3-Tris-nitrooxy-propane colour: yellow but coulourless when pure aspect: slightly oily liquid density: 1.13 at 15 °C melting point: 13.2 °C molecular weight 227.0872 very sensitive to friction, shock, elevation of temperature, and sparks. Preparation Nitroglycerin is prepared by nitration of glycerin. In the process, glycerin is slowly tipped into a mix of concentrated nitric and sulfuric acids. The solution is slowly mixed. The temperature should never exceed 30 °C, otherwise there is a risk of explosion. When the reaction is over, the mix is poured into a large amount of water. The nitroglycerin settles and is washed with water and sodium carbonate until it becomes neutral. Manufacture The industrial manufacturing process uses a 50:50 mixture of fuming sulphuric acid (fuming means it is very concentrated) and red fuming nitric acid. This produces nitronium ions in situ, which attack glycerin (also called glycerol) at its negatively charged oxygen atoms. The functional group NO2 is thus added, adding extra oxygen atoms to the flammable substance glycerin. The use of strong acids almost always results in an exothermic reaction (i.e., heat is produced), and this reaction is no exception. However, if the mixture becomes too hot, it explodes. Thus, the acid mixture is added slowly to the reaction vessel containing the glycerin. The reaction vessel itself is cooled with ice-cold water or some other coolant mixture at about 0 °C. The vessel itself has an emergency trap door at its bottom, which hangs over a large pool of very cold water. If sensors in the mixture detect the temperature rising too rapidly, then the whole mixture can be dumped into the ice-cold water, which prevents an explosion if done in time. This chemical reaction is extremely risky to attempt except by trained professionals in specially equipped laboratories. Medical use In medicine, nitroglycerin (sometimes called Glyceryl trinitrate) is used as a heart medication (under the trade names Nitrospan and Nitrostat). It is used as a medicine for angina pectoris (ischaemic heart disease) in tablets, ointment, or solution for intravenous use. The principal action of nitroglycerin is vasodilation, that is, widening of the blood vessels. The main effects of nitroglycerin in episodes of angina pectoris are chest pain subsides blood pressure decreases heart rate increases These effects come about because nitroglycerin is converted to nitric oxide in the body (by a mechanism that is not completely understood), and nitric oxide in turn is a well-known natural vasodilator. History Nitroglycerin was discovered by Ascanio Sobrero in 1847, working under TJ Pelouze at the University of Torino. The best manufacturing process was developed by Alfred Nobel in the 1860s. His company exported a liquid combination of nitroglycerin and gunpowder as 'Swedish Blasting Oil', but the extreme danger of using the liquid, as shown in a number of "appalling catastrophes", led to the liquid being widely banned and the development of dynamite (and similar mixtures such as dualine and lithofracteur), mixing the nitroglycerine with inert (Nobel used kieselguhr) or combustible absorbents (e.g. nitrocellulose to produce the yellow gel, blasting gelatine). |
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re: doctoring gasoline with TNT
Buttweldor...You must be insane to suggest that anyone should mess with explosives.
I personally see no benefit from trying this. Although Buttweldor makes strong points...the composition of TNT will not allow any benefit. Please do not try this at home. |