I am with you Darryl, I know the metal I work with goes to hell pretty quickly when worked. You need a way to keep the working to a mininum. I hate to even spend much time with the tool until I get that light and DVD as to not pick up any bad habits. I KNOW how PDR and your typical bodyman skills are miles apart, I understand that. So I will play some with the things you sent and wait until I get the DVD and light before I go hog wild with it.