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Old 01-26-2010, 09:33 PM
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Have you made it a tenth of the size with a bent shaft to spin it so you can get it into your average working area where dents are found?

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Funny you mention it! We NOW have the Dominator3... The 'electric' version! It has a 'flex shaft'! And making it smaller??? Yep!!! we got that too! We like to call'em PDR rods! You can even buy'em in SETS!! I wonder how many dents you've looked at over these years wondering if the Dominator could take em out..... Anyway..... stay with the good ole bondo and paddle, it'll keep you sharp!http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/newr...e=1&p=1223088#
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There is a serious lack of direction in this thread, at least for anyone out of the loop, and most of the links provided are dead ends...

So what I gathered is that this set is a PDR set, though it doesn't really look like one to me, at least not the standard PDR Tools I know of

Is this part of a suction cup glue system?

There is no way that set can accommodate for all PDR dents, though I might be wrong.

Someone explain this setup to me, and what each of these tools does, my company does PDR, and I'm sure my PDR guy might be interested.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:57 PM
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I'll post photos later, I just did a search and came up with nothing! But I have a few Dominator heads at work I'll post photos of.

If you look at the tool kits he has on his web site you will see "Star" and Triangle shaped pieces in them. Those pieces are made of stainless steel or hardened steel of some kind. He mentions he now has plastic ones because the metal ones are MIND NUMBING loud. Anyway, these tools spin on an extended shaft die grinder like tool. You lightly place the spinning "star" against your metal and you can lift a low spot.

I found it to be "interesting" but like all PDR it would take a TON of time to really master. The biggest problem with it I mentioned in my first response today, do you make a much smaller one? They are way to big to be of help in the real world of PDR when you can insert a 1/4" shaft thru a hole to push a dent out.

Anyway, I'll post some photos tomorrow.

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Old 01-26-2010, 11:02 PM
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Watch his video at that link you provided, no doubt about it, it is DARN interesting!

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Watch his video at that link you provided, no doubt about it, it is DARN interesting!

Brian
I watched the video, it seemed to have a few advantages over the standard bar PDR, but it did leave a lot of unanswered questions about practical applications of this 20,000 RPM device.

How big is this device, it looked a little cumbersome to use, and does it have to be at a certain angle to use properly, or can it swivel and work at all angles from a 90 degree to 180 degree entry point, and how thick is the shaft..?

I did see a few applications were it might be pretty handy, but I think I would need to demo this product before spending 2k on one.
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It is VERY clumbersome and VERY limited in my opinion. HOWEVER, there are many applications I think it is more useful simply because it doesn't require "leverage" that the typical PDR tool requires.

But honestly, like any other tool in your box, it would have advantages and disadvanages. It is most certainly not the answer to all your PDR needs, that is for sure.

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Here is what they look like.


Here is the video.


And no I didn't amplify the volume.

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Just a reminder that business urls can't be posted by those affiliated with the mentioned businesses, per our business posting guidelines. However, you can put your biz url in your user profile, and invite readers to visit your profile for a link to your site.

Nevertheless, thanks for the update, and for including us in the dialogue about this intriguing product. The website looks good, and I've added it to the Garage-Tools category of our Knowledge Base. I also just checked out your blog. I hope you're exploring other revenue models besides ultimately charging for access to your vids. You might find that, because of the low overhead of publishing videos online, it's often more profitable just to give them away for free, and profit from the resulting increased product sales.
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Setting The Record Straight!

OK......................... for the last time!!!
If you buy a Dominator you CAN'T THROW AWAY ALL YOUR OTHER TOOLS!!!!
you don't have a tool in your tool box that can DO IT ALL ,..... and if you buy a DOMINATOR...................................YOU STILL DON'T!!!
NEXT... I didn't see a PDR light in the video.... this tool is the FINISHING TOOL for LARGE DAMAGE! You would NOT take this tool to the bottom of a LARGE DENT the same way you wouldn't take a pointy PDR TOOL to the bottom of a large dent!
and lastly,................. THIS IS A SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
NOT A TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MAJIC WAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have spent the last 20 years doing (EXCLUSIVELY) LARGE damage PDR!! ON A RETAIL LEVEL!!! No DEALERSHIPS, NO HAIL DAMAGE, BUT NON STOP LARGE DAMAGE PDR!!! Regardless weather the panel needed to be painted OR NOT!
I use hydraulics (with 'carpet blocks), Infratech heating lamps, my OWE patented GLUE SYSTEM, the Dominator, PDR TOOLS, and yes............. on that rare (very rare) occasion, I've even been caught with a 'two part' putty, (Mirror Glaze)!
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The System!!

If you don't have the afore mentioned items (AMONG A TON OF OTHERS)you simply CAN'T do LARGE DAMAGE PDR! On Charging for the video training....
HOW MANY RIP OFF'S OUT THERE HAVE BEEN CHARGING YOU GUYS $5,K $10K) FOR A WEEK OF TRAINING AT THERE LOCATIONS@#@$#@$ ONLY TO SET YOU UP ON A 'HOOD STAND' (in front of the perfect small round dent) show you basics, and at the end of the week, tell you, "well now you got it"! "the rest is practice"! WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!!!
You can't learn what has taken me 20 years of pushing metal with a 'knife point', in a WEEK, or watching an hour long CD!!!! We are currently working on a COMPLETE 'video' training course from a 'STATE' VO_TECH SCHOOL that we'll be teaching at, and then transferring to the web via our website and iTunes University.... This is unprecedented in our industry! NOT A STATIC C/D,... But a NEVER ENDING, (INTERACTIVE) Training site! From the 'rookie' to the advanced Pro PDR guy, or Bodyman. It will be free in the beginning,(as we build our library), but eventually it WILL be a paid for training site... Why should I GIVE AWAY what has taken me 20 years to acquire? I'm PISSED!!!! I am SOOO tired of the HARD HEADED BODYMAN THAT YOU SIMPLY CAN'T GET THOUGH TO, NO MATTER WHAT!#!@#%@
You know what? The next time you standing there with 'bondo dust' all over you think of ME! Or the next time your cutting off a PERFECTLY GOOD door or Quarter Panel, think of ME!
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Ok, you are getting on my nerves!

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Well Dominator (nice name).... you might want to freshen up your communication skills a little. Using all capital letters is considered yelling. Using too much punctuation does not get your point across any better than simply typing what you have to say.

To answer your question, I don't know why you should give away what has taken you 20 years to learn, and I don't care whether you do or not. I regularly share online what I have learned in the last 30+ years without any expectation of making money. Brian does the same. So do countless others.

Your sales pitch sounds like Mr. Shamwow or something. A major turn-off. The kind of stuff I either mute, or change channels to get away from.

I hope you are successful in your business, but please tone down the aggressive sales pitch.

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This is so funny, his posts DO show his personality! I said it in the very first posts on this subject, that he sounded like high school cheerleader!

It gets on your nerves that's for sure!

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