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Old 01-19-2006, 11:15 AM
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Well, I just tried this technology for the first time. This is without viewing the DVD, using a PDR light or anything. I just got a used Honda fender, put a dent in it, and went at it with a least aggressive Dominator "head".

VERY interesting guys, VERY interesting. It "walks" the metal with amazingly control. I see very good things with this tool.

By the way, the mandrel needed can be found a "Glit/Gemtex" (click here) under the "Trim-Kut" line. I am not sure as I type this what size but I removed the grinding disc off mine and screwed on the Dominator Head. It is way to short for my liking but appears to work just fine.

I will post more when more time is spent with it.

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How about some pics of this thing?
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Old 01-20-2006, 11:04 AM
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Blats, foiled again! The darn DVD doesn't appear to have been finalized so I can't view it! DARRYL HELP!! I'll give him a call.

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Blats, foiled again! The darn DVD doesn't appear to have been finalized so I can't view it! DARRYL HELP!! I'll give him a call.

Brian
Try in a computer or another dvd player. If it's a dvdr, it probably won't work in some dvd players.
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Old 01-21-2006, 09:05 AM
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It is a DVD-RW disc and that should view thru any DVD player I would think. I have two, one that views -R fine, I know that, the other records and views +R I know that, and it showed "UNKNOWN DISC" when put in either one. I didn't even try my computer being it is a piece of crap and being it says DVD on it. But I will give it a try.

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Old 01-21-2006, 11:49 AM
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I tried it in the computer, nothing.

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Hey Brian.
If you can't get the DVD to work. Email your address to me again, and I'll get you another one out 'over night'. On using the tool. Compare this tool to the Paintless Dent Repair process. You would use this tool similar to using a PDR tool. You would'nt take the Dominator to a big 'deep crash'. What you would do, is push most of the dent out with what ever means possible, portapower,etc. then you would finish the dent with the Dominator. It is unbeliveably accurate. I can litterally put the 'orange peel' back in the surface of the paint! But, you do need a PDR light to be compatent with the tool. Try the most aggressive head on the edge of a door skin to 'roll' the metal over. Start, by hammering the edge around with just a hammer.,(no dolly) get it over as best you can, then put the Dominator to the remainder of the raised edge. It'll lay down as 'pretty as you please' with out damage to the other side of door. My final portotype comes in this am.
If it's 'up to snuff' then I give the final order to ship. So, what I'm saying is I will send you a tool, and a light! Report back on what you find, and if you don't like it, all I ask is that you send it back to me.
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Old 01-23-2006, 08:27 AM
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You are the greatest Darryl. I sent you my address and can't wait to see what ever you send. I did see the "orange peel" comment. I can see how it can be much less than your typical "Orange peel" as well. That is one of the first things I noticed, it's "Blows" are microscopic! Very interesting indeed.

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Hey Brian, I'll send that stuff as soon as I can. Things are pretty hectic, and if I do not have enough of the 'new' tools to go around, I'll send you one of the 'prototypes' the difference is the new tool is much quiter, and runs like a sewing machine, the older 'prototype' is a little bumpie, but it works. On the 'orange peel' issue. Depending on the speed the tool is working, the head your using, and the quality of the metal, you will see different things. ex. If you have the tool 'wide open' then it gets very percise. If your going slower it will move more metal. Takes alittle practice.
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If you could send out another DVD that would be great. I find that if I can hit the right spot I can do wonders. I think I need to lighten up a little because if I am off the spot when I start I get a high spot. With a bar or awl I can see where I am much easier. I took a Honda fender last night and put some dents in it. With it on a rack so I have real good access, I could hit them dead on one after another. I got a few VERY close to paintless, but all would metal finish out nice.

The one issue I have with trying to keep it paintless, is burning the paint. What am I doing wrong?

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Using the tool.

Brian. Your probably going at it way too hard. The tool will do the work so you don't have to 'bare down' on it. Also, rotate the tool in a circlar motion as your woring the dent, and lastly, you GOT TO have a PDR light. I am sending a 12 volt to you. IT'll work, but, to REALLY see, you need a good light. Get the tool going at top speed, and then slowly bring it up to the underside of the metal while your going in a cirular motion. Practice, by writting you name in the panel, keep doing it, then slowly start making it lighter, and lighter, till you can barely see your name being written. Once you can 'see' what your doing you got it! Good Luck
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P.S. I sure hope your using ear protection!!!!!!!! It'll help you get the hang of it better, and not to mention keep you sane!!!!!!!!!
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Darryl, I ALWAYS wear ear protection, even with just a DA or prolonged hammer and dolly. I do know how loud it is, the other guys in the shop told me.

I will work at practicing as you describe. I wasn't starting it at full speed prior to touching the panel. And the PDR light, yeah I have a feeling I am going to be getting me a full size after getting the hang of it with the little one. Remember, I am an old bodyman and the real PDR technqiues are not the usual for us. As you know PDR and "autobody" are really two different things. This is one of the reasons I WANT to be able to do it. I want to be able to do more than "just" bodywork.

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Hey Brian. I'm 1 year older than you, but that's exactly what I'm trying to tell the guys out there. You need to have these PDR skills to do todays body work! I still use 'bondo'. BUT, about a gal. every 6 months! If you can learn these PDR type skills, you will cut down on materials substantially, about 1/2 the time, and NO BONDO in your repairs, I save doors, quarters,etc. and can do it in minutes and hours! WITH NO BONDO!!! Every body man out there needs to take a look at what I'm saying. Metal is soooo thin now days, if they took the time to look at this new system, I am convienced they would under stand this is not just PDR! You need to beable to WORK the metal, and with todays cars the 'art' of 'hammering, and dolling' is over. UNTIL NOW. The Dominator does the 'hammering and dolling', but you need to understand how to use the Paintless Dent Repair light, so, you can SEE what the metal is doing! Spend alittle more time on the body work, and a WHOLE LOT LESS TIME, Bondoing,Blending,cleaning up, inhaleing dust, and by the way did I mention NO BONDO! Your 'reducing the size of the repair as you go. Not making it bigger! As soon as I can I will get that c/d and tool to you. I really wany you to get this new way of doing body work. I promise you will love it!
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I am with you Darryl, I know the metal I work with goes to hell pretty quickly when worked. You need a way to keep the working to a mininum. I hate to even spend much time with the tool until I get that light and DVD as to not pick up any bad habits. I KNOW how PDR and your typical bodyman skills are miles apart, I understand that. So I will play some with the things you sent and wait until I get the DVD and light before I go hog wild with it.

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