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Old 11-04-2003, 10:09 PM
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Door Hinge Problems

I am installing hidden hinges on my 41 ford and I need help with 2 problems.

Problem 1: The bottom lip on the door rubs just a little bit while opening. The door has been chopped and is evenly gapped on all sides. Please see the picture in my photo album and you will have a better understanding.

Problem 2: Take a look at the other picture in my photo album. The doors squeek because the hinges flex the body where the 1" pipe supports are. Any suggestions on how I can stiffen up the hinges and the brackets in the doors??

I have a few ideas but wanted to see what you guys thought..

Thanks...

CTP
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Old 11-05-2003, 06:09 AM
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In order for flat hinges like you're using to work properly they need to be parallel not only in the horizontal axis but vertically as well. It would appear they are not parallel vertically which is what is causing the body flex and squeaking. Also it's not clear by the photos if the hinges are welded to the doors or bolted. It's always best to bolt them to the doors which will allow for a little adjustment.

Probably not much help but at least its something to consider.

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Like Centerline said... Make sure the hinge pins are lined up perfectly with one another. The easiest way to do this is to pull the existing pins and run a rod of the same diameter long enough to go thru both hinges. This will tell you what you need to know because, if the rod wont go thru both hinges as they are, they are mis-aligned and you will need to do some adjusting to get them lined up. You want the "hinge pin" will drop thru both easily with no pounding or tapping...
As for the flexing body panels you need to run a piece of 1 x 2 x 3/32 wall tubing from the floor to the cowl right behind the hinges so they have something to lean on. Weld it in and tack the hinges in place once you get them lined up.
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See, the problem with the door rubbing is that there is a section of the door and body that are horizontally parallel to each other. The door hinges are lined up properly. I can run a square against the top and bottom hinge and they line up perfectly. I was thinking about a way to make the door actually rise a 1/4" when it opens.

The squeaking is cause by the 1" pipe mounts making the body flex and squeak. The suggestion about mounting the hinges to a 1 is square stock sounds good. Just need to stiffen the doors more...Thanks for the help.
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The door hinges are lined up properly. I can run a square against the top and bottom hinge and they line up perfectly.
That isn't good enough to ensure they are parallel. If they are off even a little in the horizantal or vertical they won't work properly.

Just a thought but to keep the door from rubbing based on your pics, you might have to move the hinge point outward an inch or so. Just my $.02.

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Hinge Problem (update)

Well, I finally installed the door hinges properly after 3 tries. After I got the doors lined up I then rounded the corners and welded metal to the body in order to get a 1/4" door jam gap all the way around....CTP
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